We'll let POTUS know later
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By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.
So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.
eta: same with your link.
@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.
So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.
eta: same with your link.
First thing, hang all the lawyers.
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@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?
I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.
A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.
I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.
@George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:
@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?
I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.
A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.
I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.
If so, that's truly, truly shitty.
But exactly what I would expect...
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By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.
So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.
eta: same with your link.
@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.
So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.
eta: same with your link.
Oh come on, guy. They got nearly 2 billion dollars before they even had a product to sell.
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@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.
I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.
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@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
Ah, no they didn’t.
Read the fucking release. Or even just the quote I lifted from it.
I read the fucking release. I also read the fucking back tracking the fucking CEO of fucking Pfizer was forced to put out when they got fucking called out for fucking lying.
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@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
Curious what it really means. Before like hours before? Or days?
Not sure how critical it is anyway. Biden was clearly the winner by the time they announced it and the information isn't even directly actionable. They can't apply for emergency approval until they reach the 2 month mark on their safety data which is next week I think?
It's still not clear that Biden won anything.
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So here’s the company’s statement:
Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."
So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.
But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.
Only non-witches get due process.
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So here’s the company’s statement:
Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."
So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.
But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.
@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
So here’s the company’s statement:
Pfizer is one of various vaccine manufacturers participating in Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential COVID-19 vaccine," Castillo said in an email. "While Pfizer did reach an advanced purchase agreement with the U.S. government, the company did not accept (Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority) funding for the research and development process. All the investment for R&D was made by Pfizer at risk. Dr. Jansen was emphasizing that last point."
So yeah, “participating” in that the purchase of the doses, assuming it occurs, will come from that money.
But Pfizer is correct that they received no money. They got a PO. With conditions that haven’t been met yet.
No, they got the money.
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@jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:
The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.
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Don’t know if or when Pfizer called the Biden campaign to inform them of its vaccine news. Even if Pfizer did, it’s their own information to share with whomever and whenever it sees fit. So, yeah, even if Pfizer did call the Biden campaign first, it is perfectly alright. Heck, it is still perfectly alright even if Pfizer also called Kanye first.
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Don’t know if or when Pfizer called the Biden campaign to inform them of its vaccine news. Even if Pfizer did, it’s their own information to share with whomever and whenever it sees fit. So, yeah, even if Pfizer did call the Biden campaign first, it is perfectly alright. Heck, it is still perfectly alright even if Pfizer also called Kanye first.
@Axtremus said in We'll let POTUS know later:
Don’t know if or when Pfizer called the Biden campaign to inform them of its vaccine news. Even if Pfizer did, it’s their own information to share with whomever and whenever it sees fit. So, yeah, even if Pfizer did call the Biden campaign first, it is perfectly alright. Heck, it is still perfectly alright even if Pfizer also called Kanye first.
Uh, no. It's not.
It's not illegal, but it's damn sure not all right.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Don’t know if or when Pfizer called the Biden campaign to inform them of its vaccine news. Even if Pfizer did, it’s their own information to share with whomever and whenever it sees fit. So, yeah, even if Pfizer did call the Biden campaign first, it is perfectly alright. Heck, it is still perfectly alright even if Pfizer also called Kanye first.
@Axtremus said in We'll let POTUS know later:
Heck, it is still perfectly alright even if Pfizer also called Kanye first.
I suppose.
Now, answer me this: What was the motivation for Pfizer putting the President of the United States not on the list of whom to notify? Azar said he "read it in the papers."
This was not an accident. This was a deliberate choice.
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It’s not right - the office of POTUS should be notified first.
But Trump personally doesn’t deserve it.
Remember, this is the guy that fires senior government officials through the media and Twitter.
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It’s not right - the office of POTUS should be notified first.
But Trump personally doesn’t deserve it.
Remember, this is the guy that fires senior government officials through the media and Twitter.
@xenon said in We'll let POTUS know later:
It’s not right - the office of POTUS should be notified first.
But Trump personally doesn’t deserve it.
Remember, this is the guy that fires senior government officials through the media and Twitter.
Personally doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.
