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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    About the vaccine....

    "One of the more disturbing events of our disturbing times was the revelation Pfizer CEO Dr. Albert Bourla informed the Biden campaign of the success of his company’s COVID-19 vaccine before the current president and his administration."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Can you post the text? It wants email to proceed

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG George K

        About the vaccine....

        "One of the more disturbing events of our disturbing times was the revelation Pfizer CEO Dr. Albert Bourla informed the Biden campaign of the success of his company’s COVID-19 vaccine before the current president and his administration."

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        I seem to think Mike Pence tried to take partial credit for it and was put straight in no uncertain terms.

        I was only joking

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          Curious what it really means. Before like hours before? Or days?

          Not sure how critical it is anyway. Biden was clearly the winner by the time they announced it and the information isn't even directly actionable. They can't apply for emergency approval until they reach the 2 month mark on their safety data which is next week I think?

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Pfizer also tried to claim they didn't take any of the money Trump gave to companies to develop a vaccine but it finally came out they were lying, and had taken something like 1.8 billion dollars.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Curious what it really means. Before like hours before? Or days?

              Not sure how critical it is anyway. Biden was clearly the winner by the time they announced it and the information isn't even directly actionable. They can't apply for emergency approval until they reach the 2 month mark on their safety data which is next week I think?

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              @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

              Curious what it really means. Before like hours before? Or days?

              Not sure how critical it is anyway. Biden was clearly the winner by the time they announced it and the information isn't even directly actionable. They can't apply for emergency approval until they reach the 2 month mark on their safety data which is next week I think?

              It's still not clear that Biden won anything.

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                Got a link for that, Larry?

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Can you post the text? It wants email to proceed

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                  @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                  Can you post the text? It wants email to proceed

                  This is from a column by Roger Simon.

                  Here's another version of it:

                  https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/12/biden-informed-of-pfizers-vaccine-news-before-government-health-officials/

                  Former Vice President Joe Biden was informed of Pfizer’s successful coronavirus vaccine news before the nation’s incumbent chief health care administrator, Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar.

                  “I, as Secretary of Health and Human Services, learned about this from media reports on Monday morning,” Azar said Wednesday during an interview with Washington D.C. radio station WMAL.

                  On Monday, the pharmaceutical giant announced that its coronavirus vaccine candidate showed to be 90 percent effective in large-scale clinical trials, putting the end of the pandemic that has claimed the lives of almost 250,000 Americans since March on the horizon.

                  “If the Biden campaign found out Sunday night but you … didn’t find out until Monday, that sounds like there’s a problem there,” WMAL host Vince Coglianese said during his interview with Azar.

                  “There certainly was a gap in communication, let’s say,” Azar responded.

                  According to RealClearPolitics, White House staff fumed at learning of the vaccine through the media as opposed to directly from the company as Biden did.

                  While Drs. Moncef Slaoui and Anthony Fauci openly contradicted the president’s campaign statements that the U.S. was reeling towards a vaccine, Monday’s announcement proved the president was right.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                    Can you post the text? It wants email to proceed

                    This is from a column by Roger Simon.

                    Here's another version of it:

                    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/12/biden-informed-of-pfizers-vaccine-news-before-government-health-officials/

                    Former Vice President Joe Biden was informed of Pfizer’s successful coronavirus vaccine news before the nation’s incumbent chief health care administrator, Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar.

                    “I, as Secretary of Health and Human Services, learned about this from media reports on Monday morning,” Azar said Wednesday during an interview with Washington D.C. radio station WMAL.

                    On Monday, the pharmaceutical giant announced that its coronavirus vaccine candidate showed to be 90 percent effective in large-scale clinical trials, putting the end of the pandemic that has claimed the lives of almost 250,000 Americans since March on the horizon.

                    “If the Biden campaign found out Sunday night but you … didn’t find out until Monday, that sounds like there’s a problem there,” WMAL host Vince Coglianese said during his interview with Azar.

                    “There certainly was a gap in communication, let’s say,” Azar responded.

                    According to RealClearPolitics, White House staff fumed at learning of the vaccine through the media as opposed to directly from the company as Biden did.

                    While Drs. Moncef Slaoui and Anthony Fauci openly contradicted the president’s campaign statements that the U.S. was reeling towards a vaccine, Monday’s announcement proved the president was right.

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                    @George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                    While Drs. Moncef Slaoui and Anthony Fauci openly contradicted the president’s campaign statements that the U.S. was reeling towards a vaccine, Monday’s announcement proved the president was right.

                    That's just false, based on a poor understanding of the process. See my long post from the summer about the distinction between the timing of efficacy data and safety data.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-covid-vaccine-operation-warp-speed-trump-pence-1546024

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                          By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                          So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                          eta: same with your link.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                              George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                              I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

                              https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

                              A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

                              I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                                So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                eta: same with your link.

                                George KG Offline
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                                @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                                  So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                  eta: same with your link.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                  By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                                  So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                  eta: same with your link.

                                  First thing, hang all the lawyers.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                    George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                                    I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

                                    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

                                    A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

                                    I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

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                                    @George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                    @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                    George, so the Pfizer CEO never called Trump?

                                    I have no idea who called whom. What is clear is that the administration learned of it from the news media according to Azar, and that happened after the Biden team was informed.

                                    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/10/wh_rips_post-election_timing_on_vaccine_it_is_a_scandal.html

                                    A senior White House aide told RealClearPolitics that the administration only learned of the vaccine from news reports. Biden, meanwhile, was notified the night before. He offered congratulations and heralded the breakthrough as a “cause for hope.” But he told the country to keep covering their faces.

                                    I wonder if they have proof that Biden was notified before.

                                    If so, that's truly, truly shitty.

                                    But exactly what I would expect...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                                      So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                      eta: same with your link.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                      By the way, George, that link in the Federaliast doesn't show them taking Warp Speed funding, it describes a contract for future sale that is conditional on FDA approval.

                                      So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                      eta: same with your link.

                                      Oh come on, guy. They got nearly 2 billion dollars before they even had a product to sell.

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                                        Ah, no they didn’t.

                                        Read the fucking release. Or even just the quote I lifted from it.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @jon-nyc said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                          So they were correct in saying they haven't gotten any funding from the Feds for this.

                                          I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

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                                          @George-K said in We'll let POTUS know later:

                                          I didn't comment on funding, only on notifications.

                                          You’re right. I just happened to see it mentioned in the link.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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