Pfizer FTW
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 17:54 last edited by Jolly 11 Sept 2020, 17:54
If I was Trump, I'd supercede this bullshit and try to have the first people vaccinated before leaving office.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 17:57 last edited by
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 17:58 last edited by
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@Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:
Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?
It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.
I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.
It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.
wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:01 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Pfizer FTW:
@Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:
Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?
It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.
I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.
It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.
You sure bought the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!! RUSSIA" conspiracy hook line And sinker.
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Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:04 last edited by@xenon said in Pfizer FTW:
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.
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I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.
wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:18 last edited by@Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:
I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.
Oh, they will... But in the meantime, they still have time left on their lease. May as well get the poor bastards back into the office until then...
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:21 last edited by
Until the vaccine has been widely distributed a lot of people will refuse and it won’t be difficult to muster a significant enough number to make them back down.
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@xenon said in Pfizer FTW:
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.
wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:22 last edited by Jolly 11 Sept 2020, 18:22@Loki said in Pfizer FTW:
@xenon said in Pfizer FTW:
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.
Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:25 last edited by
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:26 last edited by
Yes
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:39 last edited by
@Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:
@George-K said in Pfizer FTW:
Is he an idiot?
I thought he had more sense than that?
Oh Cuomo gets it. They just lost credit for solving Covid and economic rebound. And the senate will be GOP. Need to scramble to get a new agenda. God I can’t believe it spilled out like that, He must be getting old.
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@Loki said in Pfizer FTW:
@xenon said in Pfizer FTW:
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.
Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?
wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:48 last edited by@Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:
@Loki said in Pfizer FTW:
@xenon said in Pfizer FTW:
Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?
It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)
Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.
Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?
Not buying that. You don't just miss a story like that.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 18:52 last edited by Mik 11 Sept 2020, 18:54
Cuomo is just flat wrong. The government does not have any infrastructure to distribute and administer the vaccine. To try to set that up would take months, by which time we could be well on the way to a vaccinated population.
The private sector does have that infrastructure, however imperfect. We see it every year in flu shots. as far as 'healthcare deserts', that can be dealt with. But a large part of teh problem there is not accessibility but awareness and willingness.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 19:23 last edited by
Kind of disingenuous to change “fix it or stop” to just “stop it”.
I don’t know enough about the plan to comment. It is certainly true that no existing pharamacies and few if any hospitals have the infrastructure to store a vaccine at -91C. I’m not sure how the current plan deals with this problem. I also think managing the follow up shot is likely to be poorly implemented by the pharmacies, but I have trouble imagining the state doing it any better.
But I really need to read a more technical version of the objections.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 19:40 last edited by Mik 11 Sept 2020, 19:40
That's the same temperature required to ship frozen steaks and ice cream across the country. I think we can handle it. It's not like we have a choice.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 19:41 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Sept 2020, 19:43
Ah, no. My understanding is most research labs freezers don’t go below -80
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 19:42 last edited by
That's what the Wall Street Journal says. Where's your info come from?
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 19:56 last edited by
United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) is one of the providers who is planning to build so-called "freezer farms" to gear up for the rapid delivery of vaccines. There are big challenges, but they are not as big as not having a vaccine to begin with.
Infohttps://www.newsmax.com/health/headline/coldstorage-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/04/id/985471/
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 20:06 last edited by
I just have to say how much I love watching Cuomo be so transparent about the loss of all the major credit the dems had planned on taking, it’s truly delicious.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 20:40 last edited by
Biden (if elected) had better be the best thing since sliced bread.
This is not starting well.