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Pfizer FTW

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    xenon
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    Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

    It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

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      George K
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

        Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?

        It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.

        I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.

        It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Pfizer FTW:

        @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

        Why noy, if it is a possible Truth?

        It gets back to the article you posted the other day about making accusations without evidence.

        I probably am one of the more anti conspiracy people here. Just don’t believe in them.

        It is like the German guy in the World War 2. If you keep repeating a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.

        You sure bought the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!! RUSSIA" conspiracy hook line And sinker.

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        • X xenon

          Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

          It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

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          Loki
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          #30

          @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

          Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

          It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

          Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.

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            LuFins Dad
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            @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

            I'm not sure a lot of companies didn't realize they don't need huge buildings for their employees.

            Oh, they will... But in the meantime, they still have time left on their lease. May as well get the poor bastards back into the office until then...

            The Brad

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              Mik
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              Until the vaccine has been widely distributed a lot of people will refuse and it won’t be difficult to muster a significant enough number to make them back down.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

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                Jolly
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                #33

                @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                  Is he an idiot?

                  I thought he had more sense than that?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #35

                    Yes
                    No

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                      Is he an idiot?

                      I thought he had more sense than that?

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                      @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                      @George-K said in Pfizer FTW:

                      Is he an idiot?

                      I thought he had more sense than that?

                      Oh Cuomo gets it. They just lost credit for solving Covid and economic rebound. And the senate will be GOP. Need to scramble to get a new agenda. God I can’t believe it spilled out like that, He must be getting old.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                        @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                        Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                        It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                        Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                        Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

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                        Mik
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                        @Jolly said in Pfizer FTW:

                        @Loki said in Pfizer FTW:

                        @xenon said in Pfizer FTW:

                        Anyone know what the real bottlenecks are from this point forward?

                        It feels like we have unlimited financial resources to throw at this. (Relative to how big bailouts have been)

                        Here again, suddenly how much stimulus to give changes again. Amazing how the truth of everything is suddenly spilling out.

                        Has the media been complicit? Or just so busy covering the camoaign, they ignored other news?

                        Not buying that. You don't just miss a story like that.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          Mik
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                          #38

                          Cuomo is just flat wrong. The government does not have any infrastructure to distribute and administer the vaccine. To try to set that up would take months, by which time we could be well on the way to a vaccinated population.

                          The private sector does have that infrastructure, however imperfect. We see it every year in flu shots. as far as 'healthcare deserts', that can be dealt with. But a large part of teh problem there is not accessibility but awareness and willingness.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            jon-nyc
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                            Kind of disingenuous to change “fix it or stop” to just “stop it”.

                            I don’t know enough about the plan to comment. It is certainly true that no existing pharamacies and few if any hospitals have the infrastructure to store a vaccine at -91C. I’m not sure how the current plan deals with this problem. I also think managing the follow up shot is likely to be poorly implemented by the pharmacies, but I have trouble imagining the state doing it any better.

                            But I really need to read a more technical version of the objections.

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              Mik
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                              #40

                              That's the same temperature required to ship frozen steaks and ice cream across the country. I think we can handle it. It's not like we have a choice.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #41

                                Ah, no. My understanding is most research labs freezers don’t go below -80

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  That's what the Wall Street Journal says. Where's your info come from?

                                  https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-race-turns-deep-freezers-into-a-hot-commodity-11599217201?mod=hp_lead_pos4

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    Mik
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                                    United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) is one of the providers who is planning to build so-called "freezer farms" to gear up for the rapid delivery of vaccines. There are big challenges, but they are not as big as not having a vaccine to begin with.

                                    Infohttps://www.newsmax.com/health/headline/coldstorage-coronavirus-vaccine/2020/09/04/id/985471/

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      Loki
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                                      I just have to say how much I love watching Cuomo be so transparent about the loss of all the major credit the dems had planned on taking, it’s truly delicious.

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                                        Jolly
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                                        Biden (if elected) had better be the best thing since sliced bread.

                                        This is not starting well.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Listen to Biden’s Saturday acceptance speech. “Our work begins with gettingCovid under control... I will spare no effort, none, or any commitment to turn around this pandemic”.

                                          It’s not often you get to skip right over your most important initiative and head straight to job 2. Well maybe he can do it in NY where the gov wants to wait 2 months.

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