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    Axtremus
    wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:04 last edited by
    #18

    I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
    Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

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    • A Axtremus
      8 Nov 2020, 02:04

      I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
      Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

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      George K
      wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:06 last edited by
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      @Axtremus said in The economic record:

      I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.

      alt text

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        8 Nov 2020, 01:48

        @Jolly said in The economic record:

        Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

        I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

        Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

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        Mik
        wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:07 last edited by
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        @George-K said in The economic record:

        @Jolly said in The economic record:

        Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

        I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

        Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

        And would have been disastrous regardless of who was in government.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • A Axtremus
          8 Nov 2020, 02:04

          I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
          Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:11 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in The economic record:

          I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
          Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

          Calhoun don't want that ball!

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • M Mik
            8 Nov 2020, 02:07

            @George-K said in The economic record:

            @Jolly said in The economic record:

            Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

            I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

            Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

            And would have been disastrous regardless of who was in government.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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            @Mik said in The economic record:

            @George-K said in The economic record:

            @Jolly said in The economic record:

            Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

            I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

            Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

            And would have been disastrous regardless of who was in government.

            And most sentient beings without an ad to grind, know it.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:16 last edited by
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              The depression would have sucked for any president.

              It shows up in Hoover’s stats.

              Them’s the breaks.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • G George K
                8 Nov 2020, 01:39

                @jon-nyc said in The economic record:

                800,000 lost jobs. The most by any President over his term.

                October's numbers show 685K new jobs.

                Does your comment include those?

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                George K
                wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 02:19 last edited by George K 11 Aug 2020, 02:23
                #24

                @George-K said in The economic record:

                @jon-nyc said in The economic record:

                800,000 lost jobs. The most by any President over his term.

                October's numbers show 685K new jobs.

                Does your comment include those?

                Does that mean 115K jobs lost?

                Does that still mean the most by any President over his term?

                ETA: Trump still has (presumably) about 2 months in his term. Isn't it a bit premature to pull that trigger?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 04:27 last edited by
                  #25

                  Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                  The Brad

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    8 Nov 2020, 04:27

                    Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 04:34 last edited by
                    #26

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                    Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                    Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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                    • L Loki
                      8 Nov 2020, 04:34

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                      Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 05:16 last edited by
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                      @Loki said in The economic record:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                      Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                      And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        8 Nov 2020, 05:16

                        @Loki said in The economic record:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                        Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                        Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                        And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

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                        AndyD
                        wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 08:36 last edited by
                        #28

                        Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                        And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                        .. and total lack of empathy.

                        But give Trump credit for his lasting effect on at least three things: the strong American economy, his strength in dealing with China, and Obamacare

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          8 Nov 2020, 04:27

                          Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 10:51 last edited by
                          #29

                          @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                          Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                          Captain Lockdown may have to wait awhile on jobs recovery.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • L Loki
                            8 Nov 2020, 04:34

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                            Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                            Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 12:17 last edited by
                            #30

                            @Loki said in The economic record:

                            Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                            This.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              8 Nov 2020, 12:17

                              @Loki said in The economic record:

                              Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                              This.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 8 Nov 2020, 16:25 last edited by
                              #31

                              @George-K said in The economic record:

                              @Loki said in The economic record:

                              Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                              This.

                              If only she was gay and somehow disabled

                              That would be a perfect president

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 9 Nov 2020, 01:40 last edited by
                                #32

                                She's not Jewish.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 17:02 last edited by
                                  #33

                                  Looks like we have to factor in the results of all the vaccine and other efforts now before we have a final tally. Jan 21 should now be part of the compare Trump and Biden record.

                                  Heck I’ll even throw Biden some stock market points to satisfy the group but even that jump was based on divided government.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 17:14 last edited by
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                                    It just eats at a democrats insides at the thought of Trump being remembered for his accomplishments.

                                    It's understandable, though. Of the democrat presidents in any of our lifetimes, the only one remembered in a positive way is John Kennedy. Jimmy Carter will always be remembered for nearly crashing the economy and giving rise to radical Islam. Bill Clinton will always be remembered as a sexual deviant. Obama will always be remembered for destroying the democrat party and race relations.

                                    Trump on the other hand will be remembered for his accomplishments, and compared to the likes of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 17:44 last edited by
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                                      Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                      His reputation is already in decline!

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        9 Nov 2020, 01:40

                                        She's not Jewish.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 17:50 last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @Jolly said in The economic record:

                                        She's not Jewish.

                                        Her husband is Jewish.

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          10 Nov 2020, 17:44

                                          Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                          His reputation is already in decline!

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 10 Nov 2020, 17:56 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 Oct 2020, 17:57
                                          #37

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The economic record:

                                          Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                          His reputation is already in decline!

                                          I’ve heard God’s Servant mentioned a couple of times....Not in a Sunday School Teacher is God’s Servant, Joe like Joshua/Jacob level...

                                          The Brad

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