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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
    Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

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    Jolly
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    @Axtremus said in The economic record:

    I’m also not planning on doing that homework either.
    Then again, I’m not the one arguing against the comparisons @jon-nyc posted.

    Calhoun don't want that ball!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Mik

      @George-K said in The economic record:

      @Jolly said in The economic record:

      Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

      I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

      Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

      And would have been disastrous regardless of who was in government.

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      #22

      @Mik said in The economic record:

      @George-K said in The economic record:

      @Jolly said in The economic record:

      Growth of 33.9% for the last quarter, wasn't it? I could be wrong...

      I think Jon's looking at it over the years of his presidency.

      Overall, he's probably right, when you average it out. 2020 was disastrous.

      And would have been disastrous regardless of who was in government.

      And most sentient beings without an ad to grind, know it.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        jon-nyc
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        #23

        The depression would have sucked for any president.

        It shows up in Hoover’s stats.

        Them’s the breaks.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • George KG George K

          @jon-nyc said in The economic record:

          800,000 lost jobs. The most by any President over his term.

          October's numbers show 685K new jobs.

          Does your comment include those?

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          George K
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          #24

          @George-K said in The economic record:

          @jon-nyc said in The economic record:

          800,000 lost jobs. The most by any President over his term.

          October's numbers show 685K new jobs.

          Does your comment include those?

          Does that mean 115K jobs lost?

          Does that still mean the most by any President over his term?

          ETA: Trump still has (presumably) about 2 months in his term. Isn't it a bit premature to pull that trigger?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            LuFins Dad
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            Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

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              Loki
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              #26

              @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

              Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

              Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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              • L Loki

                @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #27

                @Loki said in The economic record:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Loki said in The economic record:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                  Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                  Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                  And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

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                  AndyD
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                  #28

                  Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                  And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                  .. and total lack of empathy.

                  But give Trump credit for his lasting effect on at least three things: the strong American economy, his strength in dealing with China, and Obamacare

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

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                    Jolly
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                    #29

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                    Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                    Captain Lockdown may have to wait awhile on jobs recovery.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • L Loki

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                      Biden will get credit for the jobs recovery AND Social Security solvency since most of our seniors will be gone and there won’t be as much to pay out...

                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

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                      George K
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                      #30

                      @Loki said in The economic record:

                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                      This.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Loki said in The economic record:

                        Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                        This.

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                        #31

                        @George-K said in The economic record:

                        @Loki said in The economic record:

                        Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected

                        This.

                        If only she was gay and somehow disabled

                        That would be a perfect president

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #32

                          She's not Jewish.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Loki
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                            Looks like we have to factor in the results of all the vaccine and other efforts now before we have a final tally. Jan 21 should now be part of the compare Trump and Biden record.

                            Heck I’ll even throw Biden some stock market points to satisfy the group but even that jump was based on divided government.

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                              Larry
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                              It just eats at a democrats insides at the thought of Trump being remembered for his accomplishments.

                              It's understandable, though. Of the democrat presidents in any of our lifetimes, the only one remembered in a positive way is John Kennedy. Jimmy Carter will always be remembered for nearly crashing the economy and giving rise to radical Islam. Bill Clinton will always be remembered as a sexual deviant. Obama will always be remembered for destroying the democrat party and race relations.

                              Trump on the other hand will be remembered for his accomplishments, and compared to the likes of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                His reputation is already in decline!

                                I was only joking

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  She's not Jewish.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Jolly said in The economic record:

                                  She's not Jewish.

                                  Her husband is Jewish.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                    His reputation is already in decline!

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #37

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The economic record:

                                    Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                    His reputation is already in decline!

                                    I’ve heard God’s Servant mentioned a couple of times....Not in a Sunday School Teacher is God’s Servant, Joe like Joshua/Jacob level...

                                    The Brad

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                                    • A AndyD

                                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                                      And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                                      .. and total lack of empathy.

                                      But give Trump credit for his lasting effect on at least three things: the strong American economy, his strength in dealing with China, and Obamacare

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                                      Horace
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                                      #38

                                      @AndyD said in The economic record:

                                      Biden will be remembered most for being a place holder to try and get Kamala elected as long as we are being honest.

                                      And Trump will primarily be remembered for his truly odious personality.

                                      .. and total lack of empathy.

                                      No, he doesn't have a total lack of empathy. You adhere yourself to all the other small and weak people around you, expecting a mob, if it is ever required. Or maybe a phone call. That is your empathy.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The economic record:

                                        Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                        His reputation is already in decline!

                                        I’ve heard God’s Servant mentioned a couple of times....Not in a Sunday School Teacher is God’s Servant, Joe like Joshua/Jacob level...

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in The economic record:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The economic record:

                                        Four years ago you were comparing him to Churchill, now it's Reagan and Thatcher.

                                        His reputation is already in decline!

                                        I’ve heard God’s Servant mentioned a couple of times....Not in a Sunday School Teacher is God’s Servant, Joe like Joshua/Jacob level...

                                        Again, a big step down, after all his former boss walked on freaking water and gave food-stamps to way more than 5000 people.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          #40

                                          This world is made up of leaders and followers. Two things identify followers...Followers will always nip at a leader's heels. Followers will never understand what makes a leader.

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