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    bachophile
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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    But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

    I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

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    • B bachophile
      4 Nov 2020, 15:04

      How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

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      Loki
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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      @bachophile said in Calling the States:

      How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

      I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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      • L Loki
        4 Nov 2020, 15:11

        @bachophile said in Calling the States:

        How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

        I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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        bachophile
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:14 last edited by
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        @Loki

        Absolutely. I find it ironic the United States sends observers to foreign countries to facilitate elections and they can’t get it right themselves.

        But be that as it may, I agree results should be timely. But that’s not an excuse to say, well, your votes don’t count. Too bad. Let’s call it right now and ignore your votes.

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        • L Loki
          4 Nov 2020, 15:11

          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

          How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

          I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:25 last edited by
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          @Loki said in Calling the States:

          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

          How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

          I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

          As Mr. Hanlon said, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

          I was only joking

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            xenon
            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:34 last edited by
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            I had zero issue with Trump winning last night, until he went full moron that speech.

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              kluurs
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:41 last edited by
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              • L Loki
                4 Nov 2020, 15:11

                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                xenon
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:45 last edited by
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                @Loki said in Calling the States:

                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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                • X xenon
                  4 Nov 2020, 15:45

                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                  @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                  How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                  I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                  I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:55 last edited by
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                  @xenon said in Calling the States:

                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                  @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                  How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                  I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                  I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

                  Isn’t that why the inauguration used to be in March? Because of the time it took to finalize the voting Wayback a long time ago?

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 15:58 last edited by
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                    Yup, each state has its own measures to certify the results of the election. There are no uniform dates for the states to certify results. Some states don't certify their results until December. Thus, the best one can do is project winners based on initial tabulations of the results.

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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                      Nixon conceded to Kennedy on wed afternoon in 1960. Right now in the states it’s still wed morning. So this year is is still ahead of that.

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                        4 Nov 2020, 15:41

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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                        @kluurs said in Calling the States:

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                        That's clever.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • B bachophile
                          4 Nov 2020, 15:11

                          But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

                          I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

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                          89th
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:03 last edited by
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                          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                          But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

                          I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

                          He knew it. He just doesn’t want to admit it, it doesn’t help his fraud narrative.

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                          • L Loki
                            4 Nov 2020, 15:11

                            @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                            How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                            I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:05 last edited by
                            #144

                            @Loki said in Calling the States:

                            It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                            The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                            The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • G George K
                              4 Nov 2020, 15:02

                              A trove of 138K votes for Biden, and none for Trump were found.

                              Talk about landslide:

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                              kluurs
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:06 last edited by
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                              @George-K
                              "That's because it was a data entry error in Shiawassee County and in the Michigan tabulations. I watched it happen. It temporarily took Trump's lead from 270k down to 70k. They fixed it pretty quickly and it was only on Decision Desk HQ that the error occurred (that's the site your screenshot is from) because it happened when they imported results from the various county websites in Michigan." link

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                4 Nov 2020, 16:05

                                @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                                The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:14 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                                The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                                Which state are we talking about? Is @Loki in Pennsylvania?

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  4 Nov 2020, 16:05

                                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                  It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                  The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                                  The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                  It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                  The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                                  The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                                  https://www.mcall.com/news/elections/mc-nws-pa-mail-in-ballot-counting-talks-20201016-nnj2qbl345dexlj2f3ucaiccuu-story.html

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:30 last edited by
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                                    Refresh my memory as to who said PA would continue to accept ballots postmarked after Election Day.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:34 last edited by
                                      #149

                                      Scotus? You tell me.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:34 last edited by
                                        #150

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          4 Nov 2020, 16:34

                                          Scotus? You tell me.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                          Scotus? You tell me.

                                          Lol. I’m not clear anymore either. But regardless who’s fault it is we have the right to know right away. If Florida can do it anyone can. Of course if it’s too close to call you have recounts.

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