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      @bachophile said in Calling the States:

      How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

      I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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      @Loki said in Calling the States:

      @bachophile said in Calling the States:

      How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

      I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

      I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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        @Loki said in Calling the States:

        @bachophile said in Calling the States:

        How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

        I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

        I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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        @xenon said in Calling the States:

        @Loki said in Calling the States:

        @bachophile said in Calling the States:

        How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

        I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

        I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

        Isn’t that why the inauguration used to be in March? Because of the time it took to finalize the voting Wayback a long time ago?

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          Yup, each state has its own measures to certify the results of the election. There are no uniform dates for the states to certify results. Some states don't certify their results until December. Thus, the best one can do is project winners based on initial tabulations of the results.

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            Nixon conceded to Kennedy on wed afternoon in 1960. Right now in the states it’s still wed morning. So this year is is still ahead of that.

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              @kluurs said in Calling the States:

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              That's clever.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • bachophileB bachophile

                But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

                I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

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                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

                I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

                He knew it. He just doesn’t want to admit it, it doesn’t help his fraud narrative.

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                • L Loki

                  @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                  How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                  I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                  It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                  The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                  The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • George KG George K

                    A trove of 138K votes for Biden, and none for Trump were found.

                    Talk about landslide:

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                    @George-K
                    "That's because it was a data entry error in Shiawassee County and in the Michigan tabulations. I watched it happen. It temporarily took Trump's lead from 270k down to 70k. They fixed it pretty quickly and it was only on Decision Desk HQ that the error occurred (that's the site your screenshot is from) because it happened when they imported results from the various county websites in Michigan." link

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Loki said in Calling the States:

                      It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                      The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                      The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                      @Loki said in Calling the States:

                      It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                      The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                      The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                      Which state are we talking about? Is @Loki in Pennsylvania?

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Loki said in Calling the States:

                        It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                        The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                        The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                        @Loki said in Calling the States:

                        It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                        The GOP specifically blocked it in your state.

                        The governor wanted to start counting mail-in as they arrived. The GOP legislature blocked it.

                        https://www.mcall.com/news/elections/mc-nws-pa-mail-in-ballot-counting-talks-20201016-nnj2qbl345dexlj2f3ucaiccuu-story.html

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Refresh my memory as to who said PA would continue to accept ballots postmarked after Election Day.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            Scotus? You tell me.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Scotus? You tell me.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                Scotus? You tell me.

                                Lol. I’m not clear anymore either. But regardless who’s fault it is we have the right to know right away. If Florida can do it anyone can. Of course if it’s too close to call you have recounts.

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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Who the fuck is Rogan O'Handley?

                                    He seem to know a lot about cheating in elections. Maybe they should lock that twat up.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                        It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

                                        Maybe the Supreme Court will find him guilty. Do you think he's considered that?

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                                          It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

                                          Maybe the Supreme Court will find him guilty. Do you think he's considered that?

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Calling the States:

                                          Maybe the Supreme Court

                                          Can Donald Trump Litigate His Way to Victory via the Supreme Court? Not Likely

                                          https://electionlawblog.org/?p=118159

                                          I’ve been saying consistently that the only way the 2020 presidential election ends up being decided by the courts is if there is a dispute in a state that is central to an electoral college victory and that the dispute in that state is so close (or there is such a massive failure in the election) that the election is within the margin of litigation.

                                          As of this moment (though things can change) it does not appear that either condition will be met. It does not seem that Pennsylvania will be crucial to a Biden electoral college victory and so any litigation over ballots there would not matter.

                                          Even if it came down to Pennsylvania, it would have to be so close that there would be something to litigate over. If it is tens of thousands of votes separating the candidates (as currently in the Michigan totals), it is virtually impossible that a recount or litigation could change an outcome.

                                          Of course, if it does come down to a state like PA and it comes down to ballots arriving between Nov. 3 and 6, the Republicans can go back to the Supreme Court in an attempt to get those thrown out. For reasons I’ve explained, the reliance interest of the voters makes this very unlikely (and the Supreme Court passed up two chances to act on this).

                                          The other lawsuits in PA don’t seem to present much hope for flipping a lot of votes; they involve what appears to be a relatively small number of provisional ballots.

                                          So could the election be litigated to a conclusion? Sure. But it’s not likely unless there is significant tightening in both the electoral college projections and the absolute margin in a key state.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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