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      There is zero chance Trump wins.

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      @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

      There is zero chance Trump wins.

      Looks more like 12%.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        • 89th8 89th

          There is zero chance Trump wins.

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          @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

          There is zero chance Trump wins.

          BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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            @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

            There is zero chance Trump wins.

            Looks more like 12%.

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            @jon-nyc said in Understanding US election polls:

            @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

            There is zero chance Trump wins.

            Looks more like 12%.

            Lol I knew you’d say that.

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              The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

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                @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                God I hope so, but I lack your confidence.

                I was only joking

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                • 89th8 89th

                  The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

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                  @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                  The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                  Frank Bruni: "There seems to me a greater possibility now of a commanding victory by Joe Biden, and the bigger the margin, the harder it would be for President Trump to play the cheated martyr, no matter how extensively he’s been rehearsing that role."

                  He goes on:

                  "I emphasize 'possibility.' There remains the very real chance that Biden will lose . . . . Here’s how my friend Doug Sosnik, who was the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House and continues to analyze voting trends and dynamics, assessed Trump’s prospects in an email to me and other journalists on Sunday:

                  'He continues to perform better in the battleground states that will determine the election than he does at the national level. Given the history of the 2016 campaign, Trump’s ability to turn his campaign around in the final days can’t be underestimated. Trump has a much more aggressive campaign schedule than Biden. He is drawing large crowds and is dominating local coverage in the battleground states where he is campaigning.'

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

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                    So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

                    Shocking

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                      What I don't understand is the seemingly unquenchable optimism of the supporters of both sides.

                      I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

                      I was only joking

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                        What I don't understand is the seemingly unquenchable optimism of the supporters of both sides.

                        I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                        I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

                        Maybe we try one more time ...

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                          Why does Rice play Texas?

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                            @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

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                            So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

                            Shocking

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                            @Copper said in Understanding US election polls:

                            So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

                            Those aren’t polls those are probabilities based on them.

                            Note that time itself moves them. Even if the polls stay static the mere fact that there’s less time on the clock decreases your ability to turn things around.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Rasmussen banks on its likely voter algorithm versus most polls who use registered voters.

                              By all appearances many more people are voting this time.

                              The question in this context is who is converting more registered to likely voters.

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                                In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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                                  In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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                                  @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

                                  In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

                                  Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

                                  @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                  The Brad

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                                    @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

                                    Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

                                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                      @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                      Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                      @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                      Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                                      The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                                      The Brad

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                                        @LuFins-Dad deal. In fact, I’ll buy you 4 of those 4 packs and you only have to buy 1. Want to give you the odds!

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                                          Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time. I know a very few that voted Clinton in 16 that won’t be voting Biden, and I know a fair number like myself that voted 3rd party or just abstained in 16 because they couldn’t stand either that are strongly considering or already have pulled the lever for Trump. Hell, Aqua’s considering it...

                                          There have been record numbers of new voter registrations and while the Dems have gotten more numbers, it appears that Trump’s teams have won some of the important battleground states. I am not going to make any predictions at all except that I will be a little drunk on election night...

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                          Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time.

                                          All the Mullen voters I know broke for Kanye.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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