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Puzzle time - who’s bullet?

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #9

    ||spoiler||
    Both hit - chance is .75 x .25 = .1875
    Both miss - chance is .25 x .75 = .1875
    J hit, K miss - chance is .75 x .75 = .5625
    J miss, K hit - chance is .25 x .25 = .0625

    If one bullet hits, either case 3 or 4 has taken place. Chance it was Jon is .5625/(.5625+.0625) = 90%.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      ||spoiler||
      Both hit - chance is .75 x .25 = .1875
      Both miss - chance is .25 x .75 = .1875
      J hit, K miss - chance is .75 x .75 = .5625
      J miss, K hit - chance is .25 x .25 = .0625

      If one bullet hits, either case 3 or 4 has taken place. Chance it was Jon is .5625/(.5625+.0625) = 90%.

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @Doctor-Phibes your spoiler didn’t work. LOL

      but what you did makes sense. I am going to claim that I would have done the same answer. 😂😂

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #11

        Bugger, sorry.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          Bugger, sorry.

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          brenda
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          #12

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

          Bugger, sorry.

          Don't be sorry. You are t3h stats jock!

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @taiwan_girl said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

            @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

            Well it’s an intermediate step which allows you to get to the conditional probability that the target is hit by only one bullet.

            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

              “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

              • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                @jon-nyc 😂

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #16

                  Neither one. Klaus can't shoot and you're drunk.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    What's the probability of somebody's family member shooting either Klaus or Jon as they attempt to play a Rachmaninoff etude?

                    I was only joking

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                    • KlausK Offline
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                      Klaus
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                      #18

                      Exact Bayesian inference for the win.

                      normalize $ do
                          k <- coin 0.25
                          j <- coin 0.75
                          if ((k && not j) || (j && not k)) then (if k then return "Klaus" else return "Jon") else fail
                      

                      Result:

                      Dist [(0.9,"Jon"),(0.1,"Klaus")]
                      
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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        #19

                        Fucking IT people.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          Fucking IT people.

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                          #20

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

                          Fucking IT people.

                          Not in this lifetime. Nerds.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • KlausK Offline
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                            Klaus
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                            #21

                            I have a similar puzzle for Jon.

                            Jon sends us a recording of a Rachmaninoff etude and tells us that it is a recording from him.

                            Jon is a trustworthy forum member, so before listening we are 99% confident that Jon tells the truth and didn't actually send us a recording by Klaus (which would be flawless).

                            However, we also know that the probability that Jon hits a correct note is only 40%.

                            We start listening to the 10 first notes. They are all correct.

                            What's the likelihood that it is indeed Jon's recording?

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #22

                              100.0%

                              “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                              • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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