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Puzzle time - who’s bullet?

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    I will think some more. Should not be too difficult. Lol

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #9

      ||spoiler||
      Both hit - chance is .75 x .25 = .1875
      Both miss - chance is .25 x .75 = .1875
      J hit, K miss - chance is .75 x .75 = .5625
      J miss, K hit - chance is .25 x .25 = .0625

      If one bullet hits, either case 3 or 4 has taken place. Chance it was Jon is .5625/(.5625+.0625) = 90%.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        ||spoiler||
        Both hit - chance is .75 x .25 = .1875
        Both miss - chance is .25 x .75 = .1875
        J hit, K miss - chance is .75 x .75 = .5625
        J miss, K hit - chance is .25 x .25 = .0625

        If one bullet hits, either case 3 or 4 has taken place. Chance it was Jon is .5625/(.5625+.0625) = 90%.

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #10

        @Doctor-Phibes your spoiler didn’t work. LOL

        but what you did makes sense. I am going to claim that I would have done the same answer. 😂😂

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          #11

          Bugger, sorry.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Bugger, sorry.

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            #12

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

            Bugger, sorry.

            Don't be sorry. You are t3h stats jock!

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

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              #13

              @taiwan_girl said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

              @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

              Well it’s an intermediate step which allows you to get to the conditional probability that the target is hit by only one bullet.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #14

                To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  #15

                  @jon-nyc 😂

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
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                    #16

                    Neither one. Klaus can't shoot and you're drunk.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      #17

                      What's the probability of somebody's family member shooting either Klaus or Jon as they attempt to play a Rachmaninoff etude?

                      I was only joking

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                      • KlausK Offline
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                        Klaus
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                        #18

                        Exact Bayesian inference for the win.

                        normalize $ do
                            k <- coin 0.25
                            j <- coin 0.75
                            if ((k && not j) || (j && not k)) then (if k then return "Klaus" else return "Jon") else fail
                        

                        Result:

                        Dist [(0.9,"Jon"),(0.1,"Klaus")]
                        
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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Fucking IT people.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            Fucking IT people.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

                            Fucking IT people.

                            Not in this lifetime. Nerds.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Klaus
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                              #21

                              I have a similar puzzle for Jon.

                              Jon sends us a recording of a Rachmaninoff etude and tells us that it is a recording from him.

                              Jon is a trustworthy forum member, so before listening we are 99% confident that Jon tells the truth and didn't actually send us a recording by Klaus (which would be flawless).

                              However, we also know that the probability that Jon hits a correct note is only 40%.

                              We start listening to the 10 first notes. They are all correct.

                              What's the likelihood that it is indeed Jon's recording?

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #22

                                100.0%

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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