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Puzzle time - who’s bullet?

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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    ||spoiler||
    Both hit - chance is .75 x .25 = .1875
    Both miss - chance is .25 x .75 = .1875
    J hit, K miss - chance is .75 x .75 = .5625
    J miss, K hit - chance is .25 x .25 = .0625

    If one bullet hits, either case 3 or 4 has taken place. Chance it was Jon is .5625/(.5625+.0625) = 90%.

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    @Doctor-Phibes your spoiler didn’t work. LOL

    but what you did makes sense. I am going to claim that I would have done the same answer. 😂😂

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      Bugger, sorry.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Bugger, sorry.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

        Bugger, sorry.

        Don't be sorry. You are t3h stats jock!

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

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          @taiwan_girl said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

          @jon-nyc #1 and #2 cannot happen. In the riddle, one bullet hits you said. I think that leaves only 3 and 4

          Well it’s an intermediate step which allows you to get to the conditional probability that the target is hit by only one bullet.

          “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

          • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              To make the problem more realistic instead of shooting a target the puzzle should have been successfully playing a Rachmaninoff etude.

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              taiwan_girl
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              @jon-nyc 😂

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                #16

                Neither one. Klaus can't shoot and you're drunk.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  What's the probability of somebody's family member shooting either Klaus or Jon as they attempt to play a Rachmaninoff etude?

                  I was only joking

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                    Exact Bayesian inference for the win.

                    normalize $ do
                        k <- coin 0.25
                        j <- coin 0.75
                        if ((k && not j) || (j && not k)) then (if k then return "Klaus" else return "Jon") else fail
                    

                    Result:

                    Dist [(0.9,"Jon"),(0.1,"Klaus")]
                    
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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      Fucking IT people.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Fucking IT people.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Puzzle time - who’s bullet?:

                        Fucking IT people.

                        Not in this lifetime. Nerds.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          #21

                          I have a similar puzzle for Jon.

                          Jon sends us a recording of a Rachmaninoff etude and tells us that it is a recording from him.

                          Jon is a trustworthy forum member, so before listening we are 99% confident that Jon tells the truth and didn't actually send us a recording by Klaus (which would be flawless).

                          However, we also know that the probability that Jon hits a correct note is only 40%.

                          We start listening to the 10 first notes. They are all correct.

                          What's the likelihood that it is indeed Jon's recording?

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                            100.0%

                            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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