Discharge tomorrow?
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 01:28 last edited by
Theatrical histrionics over secret service personnel being asked to take an extraordinary on the job risk.
Some of you need a pat on the head.
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And just another note or two...Isn't there a barrier between front and back?
Also noticed that the guys in the vehicle had on N95 masks , full gowns and faceshields. If that means they are going to die, I've done that deal at least a half-dozen times with COVID patients. According to this doc, that could be the case.
I'm going to make a SWAG, and say the Secret Service guys are in better shape than I am.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 01:30 last edited by@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
And just another note or two...Isn't there a barrier between front and back?
Also noticed that the guys in the vehicle had on N95 masks , full gowns and faceshields. If that means they are going to die, I've done that deal at least a half-dozen times with COVID patients. According to this doc, that could be the case.
I'm going to make a SWAG, and say the Secret Service guys are in better shape than I am.
Completely unnecessary risk.
Totally irresponsible and inconsiderate towards their own staff. -
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 01:33 last edited by
Remember the exploding heads when it came out that Hillary yelled at secret service agents?
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@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
And just another note or two...Isn't there a barrier between front and back?
Also noticed that the guys in the vehicle had on N95 masks , full gowns and faceshields. If that means they are going to die, I've done that deal at least a half-dozen times with COVID patients. According to this doc, that could be the case.
I'm going to make a SWAG, and say the Secret Service guys are in better shape than I am.
Completely unnecessary risk.
Totally irresponsible and inconsiderate towards their own staff.wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 01:34 last edited by@Axtremus said in Discharge tomorrow?:
@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
And just another note or two...Isn't there a barrier between front and back?
Also noticed that the guys in the vehicle had on N95 masks , full gowns and faceshields. If that means they are going to die, I've done that deal at least a half-dozen times with COVID patients. According to this doc, that could be the case.
I'm going to make a SWAG, and say the Secret Service guys are in better shape than I am.
Completely unnecessary risk.
Totally irresponsible and inconsiderate towards their own staff.Almost nobody else is living their life to eliminate risk, either. Life goes on, despite the special pleading TDS masses.
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Remember the exploding heads when it came out that Hillary yelled at secret service agents?
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 01:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Remember the exploding heads when it came out that Hillary yelled at secret service agents?
From everything I've heard, Trump treats his pretty well with the exception of some pretty ungodly hours.
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@Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.
Walter Reed attending physician.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:06 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:
@Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.
Walter Reed attending physician.
Attending physician:
"In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."
The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:20 last edited by
We're still talking acceptable losses.
There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:32 last edited by
@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
We're still talking acceptable losses.
You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.
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@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
We're still talking acceptable losses.
You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:36 last edited by@Axtremus said in Discharge tomorrow?:
@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
We're still talking acceptable losses.
You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.
And where did you get your medical degree?
WalMart?
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:40 last edited by
HEY!
Ax don't need a medical degree or anything else.
He has more smarts in his little finger than all the smartest people on this forum rolled into a big smartglob of goo.
So there.
Don't let anyone get to you Ax, stay in your world and just keep us updated when you can.
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Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?
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@jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:
@Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.
Walter Reed attending physician.
Attending physician:
"In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."
The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.
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At his age, with his comorbidities, he could get real bad, real fast.
With FLOTUS, not so much.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:49 last edited by@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
At his age, with his comorbidities, he could get real bad, real fast.
With FLOTUS, not so much.
You know, if Harris wins in 2024 (or takes over if Biden kicks the bucket early), her husband will be the FGOTUS. That sucks.
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Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 02:50 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?
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We're still talking acceptable losses.
There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 03:13 last edited by@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
We're still talking acceptable losses.
There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...
Here, let me help a little.
"Acceptable losses for the good of the economy" is a consequentialist position.
"You shouldn't wish death on anyone" is an argument founded on moral absolutism.
If you pick one because Trump's your hero and you pick another because screw old people and the otherwise healthy adults who died that you completely ignore because it doesn't fit your narrative, it means you're better at emoting than you are at critical thinking.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 03:22 last edited by
Have a nice night, lad.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 03:53 last edited by
Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.
Go figure that one out.
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Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.
Go figure that one out.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 04:51 last edited by@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.
Go figure that one out.
I get that. I also get that it's impossible to keep the whole of humanity from being affected by the virus. The thing I posted however relates to a certain contingent of the population who cares more about the life of one person than the life of thousands because their beliefs are feeble. Which is ridiculous.
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@jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:
@Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:
Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.
Walter Reed attending physician.
Attending physician:
"In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."
The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.
wrote on 5 Oct 2020, 11:50 last edited by@Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:
The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.
He's also a CNN "Medical Consultant."
As I've mentioned before talking about some of Fox's "medical consultants," these guys should stick to what they know. The Fox lady is a radiologist. I have no idea how good/bad of a photon watcher she is, but I would take anything she says about treatment of the virus with a grain of salt.
This guy, as Jolly points out, is an ER doc (remember when ER docs were lambasted here for giving their opinions on the virus?). He's probably a good ER doc. Is he aware of decision-making that went into this, what precautions were taken? Probably not.
That said, I think it was a bone-headed and stupid move. Just another unforced error by the Trump White House. It would have been far better, and aroused fewer heads exploding had he finished his course of treatment and be video-ed leaving Marine One on the South Lawn.
An aside, in a photo, POTUS is wearing a black mask. Presumably that's a cloth mask. Why not a N95 mask, which this clearly is not?