Taiwan
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@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
Correct. I am just stating the facts.
Just like the "meme" that is posted here often. "Prove me wrong!" LOL
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Possession is 9/10's of the law.
The only thing standing between China and Taiwan is the U.S. 7th fleet.
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Possession is 9/10's of the law.
The only thing standing between China and Taiwan is the U.S. 7th fleet.
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
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Maybe President Joe will just give it to them...
The US has had a long time policy called "strategic ambiguity", where we basically say that we want to maintain the status quo. My what I know, this supposed to China a pause because they (China) dont know what the US will do if China makes invasion plans, etc.
But, while the US does provide support to Taiwan military, we also say that we support the "one China" policy.
Really, what the guy said in Twitter has been said for a long time. Though President Biden said recently that the US would militarily come to the aid of Taiwan if China invaded
The US has had a long time policy called "strategic ambiguity", where we basically say that we want to maintain the status quo. My what I know, this supposed to China a pause because they (China) dont know what the US will do if China makes invasion plans, etc.
Strategic ambiguity reminds me of the Cold War military doctrine of “Flexible Response”’the US held in Europe against the USSR. Essentially it stated the US could choose the option of responding immediately to any Soviet aggression against NATO with tactical nuclear force. It was a counter to the then stated Soviet pledge not to be the first to deploy nuclear weapons in the event of conflict.
Interesting essay on Strategic Ambiguity:
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
Oh, that is for sure. Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
Oh, that is for sure. Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
Approximately 120 Thousand 19th century British ruled 287 Million Indians
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China-Taiwan: Can a tech billionaire create a civilian fighting force?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63196623"... a retired tech billionaire in Taipei, white-haired and bespectacled, called the island's media to a press conference to tell them he was pledging one billion Taiwan dollars (£28m; $32m) to create a civilian army."
Also mentioned in the article:
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Taiwan's army has shrunk since the 1990s and the government has reduced mandatory service over the years - from two years to four months. There's now an active debate about extending it. For the first time in decades, polls show a majority in favour.
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When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
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When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
How could you use them if you didn't shoot them?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
How could you use them if you didn't shoot them?
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
How could you use them if you didn't shoot them?
Exactly. Not sure what the point was - I guess just getting us prepared. LOL
@mik I think so. We would just be a slow down bump.
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Taiwan's VP stopped over and gave a speech in the US. The CCP conducts another military drill crossing the median line in the Taiwan strait.
Also:
Hours before the drills, U.S. President Joe Biden and the leaders of South Korea and Japan agreed at Camp David to deepen defence and economic cooperation, while reaffirming "the importance of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait as an indispensable element of security and prosperity in the international community."
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Yeah, both those things (VP visit to US and Japan/South Korea meeting with President Biden) have been big news.
I think that mainland China overestimated its' influence and attitude. Over the past few years, there has been a very obvious change in the tone of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in China. It diplomats were nicknamed the Foreign Ministry wolves. The Minister of Foreign Affairs was the leader and he was recently replaced. So internally, they may be understanding their recent approach is "oops!", not the right one.
