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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 01:40 last edited by
Maybe President Joe will just give it to them...
The US has had a long time policy called "strategic ambiguity", where we basically say that we want to maintain the status quo. My what I know, this supposed to China a pause because they (China) dont know what the US will do if China makes invasion plans, etc.
But, while the US does provide support to Taiwan military, we also say that we support the "one China" policy.
Really, what the guy said in Twitter has been said for a long time. Though President Biden said recently that the US would militarily come to the aid of Taiwan if China invaded
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wrote on 19 Sept 2022, 15:22 last edited by
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
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Well, this clears it up.
According to a voiceover from Pelley during the interview that aired on Sunday evening, "after our interview, a White House official told us U.S. policy has not changed. Officially, the U.S. will not say whether American forces would defend Taiwan," Pelley continued. "But the commander in chief had a view of his own." No kidding.
Indeed, Biden does. And that "view of his own" has caused multiple headaches for the president's handlers in the White House who are forced to quickly do damage control when his words stray from their policies. That practice has caused somewhat understandable frustration for Biden, who is constantly being undermined by his own aides.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2022, 15:31 last edited by
@taiwan_girl how does a “both sides are equal” worldview hold up when you consider the China/Taiwan conflict? Or does it not apply to that situation?
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@taiwan_girl how does a “both sides are equal” worldview hold up when you consider the China/Taiwan conflict? Or does it not apply to that situation?
wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 01:04 last edited by@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
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@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 01:55 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 13:24 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
@Horace I think it is pretty obvious that in everything but "politic speak", Taiwan and mainland China are two separate countries. Kind of like UK and USA - common language and close common culture, but two countries.
So, Taiwan and China are equal when it is thought that they are two independent countries. They are not equal in terms of economic, military power, population, etc.
One of the mis-arguments made by mainland China is that "Taiwan has always been part of China." Not true. There are numerous historical data which indicate otherwise.
Right, so those who believe Taiwan is Chinese property are deluded by their pro-China bias. But those who believe Taiwan is justly independent, base that belief in facts.
Correct. I am just stating the facts.
Just like the "meme" that is posted here often. "Prove me wrong!" LOL
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wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 13:27 last edited by
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
The only thing standing between China and Taiwan is the U.S. 7th fleet.
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Possession is 9/10's of the law.
The only thing standing between China and Taiwan is the U.S. 7th fleet.
wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 13:36 last edited byPossession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
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Maybe President Joe will just give it to them...
The US has had a long time policy called "strategic ambiguity", where we basically say that we want to maintain the status quo. My what I know, this supposed to China a pause because they (China) dont know what the US will do if China makes invasion plans, etc.
But, while the US does provide support to Taiwan military, we also say that we support the "one China" policy.
Really, what the guy said in Twitter has been said for a long time. Though President Biden said recently that the US would militarily come to the aid of Taiwan if China invaded
wrote on 20 Sept 2022, 14:28 last edited by RenaudaThe US has had a long time policy called "strategic ambiguity", where we basically say that we want to maintain the status quo. My what I know, this supposed to China a pause because they (China) dont know what the US will do if China makes invasion plans, etc.
Strategic ambiguity reminds me of the Cold War military doctrine of “Flexible Response”’the US held in Europe against the USSR. Essentially it stated the US could choose the option of responding immediately to any Soviet aggression against NATO with tactical nuclear force. It was a counter to the then stated Soviet pledge not to be the first to deploy nuclear weapons in the event of conflict.
Interesting essay on Strategic Ambiguity:
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wrote on 21 Sept 2022, 02:18 last edited by
@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2022, 14:59 last edited by Copper
Which happens first?
China rules Taiwan.
Taiwan rules China.
I say it is a close call.
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
wrote on 21 Sept 2022, 17:40 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
Oh, that is for sure. Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2022, 18:47 last edited by
TG, love the new avatar!!!
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Possession is 9/10's of the law.
Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that Taiwan is independent?
Mainland China does not (and has not) really had any direct influence over Taiwan for more than 125 years, and even then, it was minimal.
I'm saying Taiwan is independent as long as it has some backing from the Pacific assets of the U.S. The moment that China has an open pathway, they will take Taiwan in a heartbeat.
Oh, that is for sure. Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
wrote on 21 Sept 2022, 21:31 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
Approximately 120 Thousand 19th century British ruled 287 Million Indians
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@taiwan_girl said in Taiwan:
Taiwan is a country of 22 million. Mainland China is a country of 1.4 Billion.
Approximately 120 Thousand 19th century British ruled 287 Million Indians
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wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 13:46 last edited by
China-Taiwan: Can a tech billionaire create a civilian fighting force?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63196623"... a retired tech billionaire in Taipei, white-haired and bespectacled, called the island's media to a press conference to tell them he was pledging one billion Taiwan dollars (£28m; $32m) to create a civilian army."
Also mentioned in the article:
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Taiwan's army has shrunk since the 1990s and the government has reduced mandatory service over the years - from two years to four months. There's now an active debate about extending it. For the first time in decades, polls show a majority in favour.
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wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 17:21 last edited by
It’s a very good idea to show a nation prepared to fight. That probably does more for them than American saber rattling.
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wrote on 14 Oct 2022, 02:53 last edited by
When I was in high school and college, we had to train with guns, though we never shot them. We had to learn to open them up, clean them, close them, know how to hold them, march in formation, etc.
I am pretty sure we would have been just a "speed bump" if the mainland Chinese invaded at that time. 555
