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  • 89th8 Online
    89th8 Online
    89th
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    #29

    I enjoyed the music. I didn't expect it to be completely in Spanish, but I don't really understand the lyrics from rappers or other English-speaking artists, too.

    If anything, this is a reminder of the massive and growing Latino-American population that will shape elections for a very long time.

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    • MikM Mik

      I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

      89th8 Online
      89th8 Online
      89th
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      #30

      @Mik said in The stupidest controversy ever:

      I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

      Yeah that was a cool set, for sure.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

        Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

        That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

        Remember that every bar in the US had multiple TVs on the halftime show. They aren’t changing channels. And a lot of people had the halftime show on at home not because of a conscious effort to watch, but because they just weren’t paying attention.

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        #31

        @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

        @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

        Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

        That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

        I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
        mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • HoraceH Online
          HoraceH Online
          Horace
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          #32

          The vibe on Reddit was mostly joy at how it was making magat heads explode.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote last edited by Mik
            #33

            From my friends on FB it was only the far-right contingent that wanted to watch the TPUSA production. Most people, myself included, could not care less who or what the halftime show was. Actually, I found it more pro-American than Beyonce's show a couple years back.

            It's all bread and circuses while the debt mounts and the SS trust fund dwindles. Keep arguing about things that don't matter, folks. Soon you will have real serious problems to worry about.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              #34

              The dancing was joyful and energetic and I can imagine enjoying it. I’m assuming most of those who claim to have enjoyed BB’s “music” who aren’t in the demographic, that’s just politics.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

                That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

                I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
                mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

                HoraceH Online
                HoraceH Online
                Horace
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                #35

                @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

                That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

                I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
                mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

                Certainly lower than the number of safe space seekers who find it emotionally taxing to watch their president give a speech.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #36

                  Easily the best part of all this is American Christian conservatives who typically clap on the freaking down beat enthusiastically promoting some faux rapper from Detroit who's been outspokenly in favour of sex with underage girls.

                  I was only joking

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                  • HoraceH Online
                    HoraceH Online
                    Horace
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                    #37

                    I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by
                      #38

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                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        A list of non-American bands that have played the Superbowl:

                        U2 (Ireland): Performed in 2002.
                        The Rolling Stones (UK): Performed in 2006.
                        Coldplay (UK): Performed in 2016.
                        The Who (UK): Performed in 2010.
                        Shania Twain (Canada): Performed in 2003.
                        Phil Collins (UK): Performed in 2000.
                        The Weeknd (Canada): Performed in 2021.
                        Paul McCartney (UK): Performed in 2005.
                        Sting (UK): Performed in 2003.
                        Shakira (Colombia): Co-headlined in 2020.
                        Rihanna (Barbados): Performed in 2023.
                        J Balvin (Colombia): Appeared in 2020.

                        Was there a lot of complaining when these folk played, or are the UK and Canada considered to be more "American" than Puerto Rico?

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                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        Was there a lot of complaining when these folk played, or are the UK and Canada considered to be more "American" than Puerto Rico?

                        Link to video

                        Elbows up!

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #40

                          @Horace said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                          I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                          I'm afraid I disapprove enormously of this sexualization of traditional Christian rap music. Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Horace said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                            I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                            I'm afraid I disapprove enormously of this sexualization of traditional Christian rap music. Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

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                            #41

                            @Doctor-Phibes

                            Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

                            That last one is, after all these years, still one hell of a Saturday night toe tapper.

                            I think Mark Farner might have even done a cover of it back in the day.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Link to video

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

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                                #43

                                @Mik said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                                Opera-like subtitles would have been useful,

                                I agree. For example, K-pop is big right now. If they would have had a K-Pop group singing (in Korean) and no subtitles, I think people would have complained.

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                                  #44

                                  Rest assured this is still being investigated.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Rest assured this is still being investigated.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #45

                                    @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                                    Rest assured this is still being investigated.

                                    Obviously, they will need time to find somebody who knows somebody who speaks Spanish.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • 89th8 Online
                                      89th8 Online
                                      89th
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                                      I do remember him saying "Ayy" like 1000x times. Here are his lyrics.


                                      [Intro]
                                      The National Football League welcomes you to the Apple Music Super Bowl 60 halftime show
                                      How wonderful it is to be Latino
                                      Today we drink

                                      [Part I: Tití Me Preguntó]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                      Ayy

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                      Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends, ayy, a lot of girlfriends
                                      Today I have one, tomorrow I'll have another, heh, but there's no wedding
                                      Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends, ayy, a lot of girlfriends
                                      Today I have one, tomorrow I'll have another, ayy

                                      [Refrain: Bad Bunny]
                                      I'm gonna take them all to the VIP, the VIP, hey
                                      Say hello to auntie
                                      Let's take a selfie, say "cheese"
                                      Let the ones I already fucked smile
                                      In a VIP, a VIP, ayy
                                      Say hello to auntie
                                      Let's take a selfie, say "cheese"
                                      Let those who have already forgotten about me smile

                                      [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                      I really like the Gabriela's
                                      The Patricia's, the Nicole's, the Sofía's
                                      My first girlfriend in kindergarten, María
                                      And my first love's name was Thalia
                                      I've got a Colombian who writes me every day
                                      And a Mexican I didn't even know about
                                      Another one in San Antonio that still loves me
                                      And the ones from PR that are all mine
                                      A Dominican who is a fresh hottie, ayy
                                      Fresh, fresh hottie
                                      The one from Barcelona that came by plane
                                      And says that my dick is fire
                                      I let them play with my heart
                                      I'd like to move in with all of them to a mansion
                                      The day I get married I'll send them an invitation
                                      Boy, stop that

                                      [Part II: Yo Perreo Sola + Safaera]

                                      [Refrain: Nesi & Bad Bunny]
                                      You used to ignore me (You ignored me)
                                      Now I ignore you (Hmm, nah)
                                      Before, you didn't want to (Didn't want to)
                                      Now I don't want to (Hmm, no)
                                      You used to ignore me (-nored me)
                                      Women all over the world
                                      Now I ignore you
                                      Before, you didn't want to
                                      Now I don't want to
                                      Twerking without fear

                                      [Chorus: Nesi & Bad Bunny]
                                      No, chill, I twerk alone (Hmm, ayy)
                                      Ayy, ayy, ayy, move it, move it, move it
                                      I twerk alone (Twerk alone)
                                      Okay, ayy, ayy

                                      [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                      My D is being chased and I want you to hide it
                                      Grab it like a bonga
                                      She took a pill that made her horny
                                      She fucks in the Audi, not in the Honda, ayy
                                      If I give it to you, don't call me
                                      'Cause this is not to make you love me
                                      If your boyfriend doesn't—
                                      He better fu—, ayy, ayy

                                      [Bridge: Bad Bunny]
                                      When she twerks she doesn't stop
                                      She smokes and gets horny, ayy
                                      She'll call you if she needs you, ayy
                                      But for now she is alone
                                      She twerks—

                                      [Part III: Party]

                                      [Chorus: Elena Rose & Bad Bunny]
                                      Party, party, party, party
                                      Party, party, party, party
                                      Welcome to the biggest party in the whole world
                                      Party, party, party, party
                                      Party, party, party, party
                                      Ayy, ayy

                                      [Part IV: VOY A LLeVARTE PA PR]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                      I met her in Miami, in Brickell
                                      She knows there's money here
                                      She wants me to make a move on her
                                      Wants me to smuggle her back home, ayey

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                      I'm gonna take you to Puerto Rico, baby, so you can see how we dance
                                      Bring your friend if you like the idea
                                      Tell her we're partying tonight, ayy
                                      We're gonna have a great time
                                      Nobody's getting married here
                                      But you're gonna want to stay, ayy

                                      [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                      Take advantage, I'm single (Ay), single

                                      [Part V: Pa' Que Retozen + Dale Don Dale + Noche de Travesura + Gasolina]

                                      [Verse: Tego Calderón, Don Omar, Héctor "El Father", Daddy Yankee & Glory]
                                      This is for you, so you can enjoy it
                                      Come on, come on, Don, come on
                                      If the girls dance on the dance floor, it's awesome
                                      If-If-If-If the girls dance on the dance floor, it's awesome
                                      She likes the gasoline
                                      Give me more gasoline

                                      [Part VI: EoO]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny & Tito "El Bambino"]
                                      You're listening to music from Puerto Rico
                                      From the neighborhoods and the housing projects
                                      She's coming around and she never shows up alone, alo-lo-lo-lo—
                                      She never shows up alone
                                      All the bad boys put down their gu—, ayy, ayy
                                      Tonight, this is what's going on-on-on-on-on (Say it)

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny & Tito "El Bambino"]
                                      Dancing perreo, baby, grinding, baby
                                      Tra-tra, baby, all the way down, baby
                                      I'll grab you, baby, in the club, baby
                                      Ayy, ayy, ayy (Tra-tra, baby, tra-tra, baby)
                                      Dancing perreo, baby, grinding, baby
                                      Tra-tra, baby, you are Latino, baby
                                      In the club, baby, I'll grab you, baby
                                      Ayy, all the way down, baby
                                      Tra-tra, baby, tra-tra, baby

                                      [Part VII: MÓNACO]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                      Good afternoon, California
                                      My name is Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio
                                      And if today I'm here at the 60th Super Bowl
                                      It's because I never, never stopped believing in me
                                      And you should, you should believe in yourself too
                                      You're more valuable than you think, believe me
                                      Heh

                                      [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                      Tell me, tell me, tell me, this is what you wanted?

                                      [Part VIII: Die With A Smile]

                                      [Intro]
                                      By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you husband and wife
                                      You may kiss the bride

                                      [Verse: Lady Gaga]
                                      Ooh, lost, lost in the words that we scream
                                      I don't even wanna do this anymore
                                      'Cause you already know what you mean to me
                                      And our love's the only war worth fighting for

                                      [Pre-Chorus: Lady Gaga]
                                      Wherever you go, that's where I'll follow
                                      Nobody's promised tomorrow
                                      So I'ma love you every night like it's the last night
                                      Like it's the last night

                                      [Chorus: Lady Gaga]
                                      If the world was ending
                                      I'd wanna be next to you
                                      If the party was over
                                      And our time on Earth was through
                                      I'd wanna hold you just for a while
                                      And die with a smile
                                      If the world was ending
                                      I'd wanna be next to you

                                      [Part IX: BAILE INoLVIDABLE]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                      While one is alive one must love as much as possible

                                      [Refrain: Bad Bunny]
                                      No, I can't forget you
                                      No, I can't erase you
                                      You taught me how to love
                                      You taught me how to dance

                                      [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                      And I've had many girlfriends
                                      But none like you
                                      I don't have my sun anymore, I live on the moon
                                      If I think of you, I'd go for it in an instant
                                      Ayy, ayy, my devil, my angel, my crazy girl, ayy
                                      My devil, my angel, my crazy girl, eh-eh

                                      [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                      Dance, dance, dance without fear
                                      Love without fear

                                      [Part X: NUEVAYoL]

                                      [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                      New York!
                                      Okay

                                      [Chorus: Andy Montañez & Bad Bunny]
                                      If you wanna have fun
                                      With charm and delight
                                      You just have to liver (Where?)
                                      A summer in New York (New York!)
                                      If you wanna have fun (Eh, eh, eh, eh)
                                      With charm and delight (But what's this?)
                                      You just have to live (San Francisco)
                                      A summer in New York (Enjoy it, 'cause this is just for a bit)

                                      [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                      Hey, hey, hey, July 4th, 4th of July
                                      I'm hanging out drunk with my cousin, feeling fly
                                      My people in The Bronx know what's up
                                      Buzzing high over in Washington Heights
                                      Willie Colón, they call me "The Bad One," hey
                                      'Cause the years go by and I'm still hitting hard
                                      Selling albums like Frida Kahlo paintings
                                      The coke is white, yeah, yeah, the 2CB's pink, eh-eh
                                      Don't get it twisted, no, no, better avoid it, ayy
                                      A shot of rum at Toñita's house and Puerto Rico feels so close
                                      I have the championship, nobody can take it from me

                                      [Interlude: Tito Trinidad & Bad Bunny]
                                      The best in the world
                                      Number one, the best in the world, ¿okay? Puerto Rico!
                                      Always believe in yourself

                                      [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                      How's Bad Bunny gonna be the king of pop, ayy, with reggaetón and dembow?

                                      [Part XI: LO QUE LE PASÓ A HAWAii]

                                      [Chorus: Ricky Martin]
                                      They want to take my river and my beach too
                                      They want my neighborhood and grandma to leave
                                      No, don't let go of the flag nor forget the lelolai
                                      'Cause I don't want them to do to you what happened to Hawaii
                                      No, don't let go of the flag nor forget the lelolai
                                      'Cause I don't want them to do to you

                                      [Part XII: El Apagón]

                                      [Intro]
                                      With so much love for y'all

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                      Puerto Rico's so fucking great, heh, it's so fucking great

                                      [Verse 1: Bad Bunny]
                                      From Carolina came reggaeton and the sons of bitches from Bayamón
                                      Ayy, ayy, they want to ride the wave and they haven't gone to Rincón
                                      A little kiss for grandma on the balcony
                                      Catching all the holes, on the Rubicon
                                      P fuckin' R, ayy, land of Maelo and Tego Calderón
                                      And of Barea who was champion before than LeBron
                                      Hmm, damn, another blackout
                                      Let's go to the bleachers to light up a blunt
                                      Before Pipo gets a sla—

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                      Puerto Rico's so fu— great, heh, it's so fucking great
                                      Puerto Rico's so fu— great, ayy, ayy, ayy

                                      [Verse 2: Bad Bunny]
                                      Ditch Maldivas, I'm staying in Palomino, ayy
                                      If not then I'm going to DR, greetings to my neighbors, ayy
                                      Here the heat is different, the sun is taíno, ayy
                                      The capital of perreo, now everyone wants to be Latino, no
                                      But they lack rhythm, drums and reggaetón, ayy, ayy
                                      Careful with my friends, we're a bunch
                                      They lack rhythm, drums and reggaetón, ayy, ayy
                                      Careful with my friends, we're a bunch
                                      Welcome to the heat

                                      [Part XIII: CAFé CON RON]

                                      [Chorus: Los Pleneros de la Cresta & Bad Bunny]
                                      Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                      We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony
                                      Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                      We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony
                                      Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                      We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony

                                      [Part XIV: DtMF]

                                      [Interlude: Bad Bunny]
                                      God bless America
                                      Doesn't matter if it's Chile, Argentina
                                      Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia
                                      Perú, Ecuador, Brasil, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana
                                      Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras
                                      El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico
                                      Cuba, Dominican Republic
                                      Jamaica, Haiti, the Antilles
                                      United States, Canada
                                      And my motherland, my homeland: Puerto Rico
                                      We're still here
                                      Now!

                                      [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                      I should've taken more pictures when I had you
                                      I should've given you more kisses and hugs whenever I could
                                      I hope my people never move away
                                      Thank you
                                      I should've taken more pictures

                                      [Outro]
                                      The National Football League and Apple Music thank you for watching the Super Bowl 60 halftime show

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                                      • 89th8 Online
                                        89th8 Online
                                        89th
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #47

                                        Of course the TPUSA family-friendly show had a man who (besides lip-syncing, couldn't even sing live like the Bunny) has previous songs with such Epstein-y lyrics like this:

                                        “Young ladies, young ladies, I like ’em underage/ See, some say that’s statutory/ But I say it’s mandatory.”

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #48

                                          There's been way more talk about the show than about the actual game. It kind of feels like all the people who go on about the Oscars ceremony but never talk about movies, or who complain about commercials but not the actual product - as if Bud Lite commercials were in some way worse than actual Bud Lite.

                                          I was only joking

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