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  • MikM Offline
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    I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      I enjoyed the music. I didn't expect it to be completely in Spanish, but I don't really understand the lyrics from rappers or other English-speaking artists, too.

      If anything, this is a reminder of the massive and growing Latino-American population that will shape elections for a very long time.

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      • MikM Mik

        I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

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        @Mik said in The stupidest controversy ever:

        I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

        Yeah that was a cool set, for sure.

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

          Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

          That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

          Remember that every bar in the US had multiple TVs on the halftime show. They aren’t changing channels. And a lot of people had the halftime show on at home not because of a conscious effort to watch, but because they just weren’t paying attention.

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          @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

          @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

          Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

          That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

          I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
          mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            The vibe on Reddit was mostly joy at how it was making magat heads explode.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #33

              From my friends on FB it was only the far-right contingent that wanted to watch the TPUSA production. Most people, myself included, could not care less who or what the halftime show was. Actually, I found it more pro-American than Beyonce's show a couple years back.

              It's all bread and circuses while the debt mounts and the SS trust fund dwindles. Keep arguing about things that don't matter, folks. Soon you will have real serious problems to worry about.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                The dancing was joyful and energetic and I can imagine enjoying it. I’m assuming most of those who claim to have enjoyed BB’s “music” who aren’t in the demographic, that’s just politics.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                  @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                  Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

                  That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

                  I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
                  mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                  @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                  Apparently 127MM watched the half time show, a little under 5MM watched TPUSA. Most Americans didn’t need a safe space. Nature is healing.

                  That doesn’t really say anything. For an alternative broadcast, that’s actually really good numbers. Compare it with any other broadcast or steaming at the same time.

                  I wasn’t really evaluating it from the standpoint of
                  mere preference, many more than 5MM would have preferred the alternative music. I was looking more at the number of Americans who were in such desperate need of a safe space from the big bad bunny that they went to the trouble of seeking it out. It was a refreshingly low number.

                  Certainly lower than the number of safe space seekers who find it emotionally taxing to watch their president give a speech.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Easily the best part of all this is American Christian conservatives who typically clap on the freaking down beat enthusiastically promoting some faux rapper from Detroit who's been outspokenly in favour of sex with underage girls.

                    I was only joking

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                      I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          A list of non-American bands that have played the Superbowl:

                          U2 (Ireland): Performed in 2002.
                          The Rolling Stones (UK): Performed in 2006.
                          Coldplay (UK): Performed in 2016.
                          The Who (UK): Performed in 2010.
                          Shania Twain (Canada): Performed in 2003.
                          Phil Collins (UK): Performed in 2000.
                          The Weeknd (Canada): Performed in 2021.
                          Paul McCartney (UK): Performed in 2005.
                          Sting (UK): Performed in 2003.
                          Shakira (Colombia): Co-headlined in 2020.
                          Rihanna (Barbados): Performed in 2023.
                          J Balvin (Colombia): Appeared in 2020.

                          Was there a lot of complaining when these folk played, or are the UK and Canada considered to be more "American" than Puerto Rico?

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                          @Doctor-Phibes

                          Was there a lot of complaining when these folk played, or are the UK and Canada considered to be more "American" than Puerto Rico?

                          Link to video

                          Elbows up!

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

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                            @Horace said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                            I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                            I'm afraid I disapprove enormously of this sexualization of traditional Christian rap music. Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @Horace said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                              I’m sure we can all stipulate that everybody in the other tribe is a pedophile. But baw wit da baw and God Knows Why are still great.

                              I'm afraid I disapprove enormously of this sexualization of traditional Christian rap music. Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

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                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Who can forget Joseph of Arimathea's "Nothing but a J thang in ma' Garden, biatch!", and the uplifting rhythm's of Lil' Saul-Paul's "Straight Outta Tarsus"?

                              That last one is, after all these years, still one hell of a Saturday night toe tapper.

                              I think Mark Farner might have even done a cover of it back in the day.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Link to video

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  I thought the set was great. All those sugar cane plants were worn by a person, that's how they got such a huge set out there so fast. Opera-like subtitles would have been useful, but maybe they didn't want us Gringos to know what he was saying.

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                                  @Mik said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                                  Opera-like subtitles would have been useful,

                                  I agree. For example, K-pop is big right now. If they would have had a K-Pop group singing (in Korean) and no subtitles, I think people would have complained.

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                                    Rest assured this is still being investigated.

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Rest assured this is still being investigated.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The stupidest controversy ever:

                                      Rest assured this is still being investigated.

                                      Obviously, they will need time to find somebody who knows somebody who speaks Spanish.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        I do remember him saying "Ayy" like 1000x times. Here are his lyrics.


                                        [Intro]
                                        The National Football League welcomes you to the Apple Music Super Bowl 60 halftime show
                                        How wonderful it is to be Latino
                                        Today we drink

                                        [Part I: Tití Me Preguntó]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                        Ayy

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                        Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends, ayy, a lot of girlfriends
                                        Today I have one, tomorrow I'll have another, heh, but there's no wedding
                                        Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends, ayy, a lot of girlfriends
                                        Today I have one, tomorrow I'll have another, ayy

                                        [Refrain: Bad Bunny]
                                        I'm gonna take them all to the VIP, the VIP, hey
                                        Say hello to auntie
                                        Let's take a selfie, say "cheese"
                                        Let the ones I already fucked smile
                                        In a VIP, a VIP, ayy
                                        Say hello to auntie
                                        Let's take a selfie, say "cheese"
                                        Let those who have already forgotten about me smile

                                        [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                        I really like the Gabriela's
                                        The Patricia's, the Nicole's, the Sofía's
                                        My first girlfriend in kindergarten, María
                                        And my first love's name was Thalia
                                        I've got a Colombian who writes me every day
                                        And a Mexican I didn't even know about
                                        Another one in San Antonio that still loves me
                                        And the ones from PR that are all mine
                                        A Dominican who is a fresh hottie, ayy
                                        Fresh, fresh hottie
                                        The one from Barcelona that came by plane
                                        And says that my dick is fire
                                        I let them play with my heart
                                        I'd like to move in with all of them to a mansion
                                        The day I get married I'll send them an invitation
                                        Boy, stop that

                                        [Part II: Yo Perreo Sola + Safaera]

                                        [Refrain: Nesi & Bad Bunny]
                                        You used to ignore me (You ignored me)
                                        Now I ignore you (Hmm, nah)
                                        Before, you didn't want to (Didn't want to)
                                        Now I don't want to (Hmm, no)
                                        You used to ignore me (-nored me)
                                        Women all over the world
                                        Now I ignore you
                                        Before, you didn't want to
                                        Now I don't want to
                                        Twerking without fear

                                        [Chorus: Nesi & Bad Bunny]
                                        No, chill, I twerk alone (Hmm, ayy)
                                        Ayy, ayy, ayy, move it, move it, move it
                                        I twerk alone (Twerk alone)
                                        Okay, ayy, ayy

                                        [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                        My D is being chased and I want you to hide it
                                        Grab it like a bonga
                                        She took a pill that made her horny
                                        She fucks in the Audi, not in the Honda, ayy
                                        If I give it to you, don't call me
                                        'Cause this is not to make you love me
                                        If your boyfriend doesn't—
                                        He better fu—, ayy, ayy

                                        [Bridge: Bad Bunny]
                                        When she twerks she doesn't stop
                                        She smokes and gets horny, ayy
                                        She'll call you if she needs you, ayy
                                        But for now she is alone
                                        She twerks—

                                        [Part III: Party]

                                        [Chorus: Elena Rose & Bad Bunny]
                                        Party, party, party, party
                                        Party, party, party, party
                                        Welcome to the biggest party in the whole world
                                        Party, party, party, party
                                        Party, party, party, party
                                        Ayy, ayy

                                        [Part IV: VOY A LLeVARTE PA PR]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                        I met her in Miami, in Brickell
                                        She knows there's money here
                                        She wants me to make a move on her
                                        Wants me to smuggle her back home, ayey

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                        I'm gonna take you to Puerto Rico, baby, so you can see how we dance
                                        Bring your friend if you like the idea
                                        Tell her we're partying tonight, ayy
                                        We're gonna have a great time
                                        Nobody's getting married here
                                        But you're gonna want to stay, ayy

                                        [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                        Take advantage, I'm single (Ay), single

                                        [Part V: Pa' Que Retozen + Dale Don Dale + Noche de Travesura + Gasolina]

                                        [Verse: Tego Calderón, Don Omar, Héctor "El Father", Daddy Yankee & Glory]
                                        This is for you, so you can enjoy it
                                        Come on, come on, Don, come on
                                        If the girls dance on the dance floor, it's awesome
                                        If-If-If-If the girls dance on the dance floor, it's awesome
                                        She likes the gasoline
                                        Give me more gasoline

                                        [Part VI: EoO]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny & Tito "El Bambino"]
                                        You're listening to music from Puerto Rico
                                        From the neighborhoods and the housing projects
                                        She's coming around and she never shows up alone, alo-lo-lo-lo—
                                        She never shows up alone
                                        All the bad boys put down their gu—, ayy, ayy
                                        Tonight, this is what's going on-on-on-on-on (Say it)

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny & Tito "El Bambino"]
                                        Dancing perreo, baby, grinding, baby
                                        Tra-tra, baby, all the way down, baby
                                        I'll grab you, baby, in the club, baby
                                        Ayy, ayy, ayy (Tra-tra, baby, tra-tra, baby)
                                        Dancing perreo, baby, grinding, baby
                                        Tra-tra, baby, you are Latino, baby
                                        In the club, baby, I'll grab you, baby
                                        Ayy, all the way down, baby
                                        Tra-tra, baby, tra-tra, baby

                                        [Part VII: MÓNACO]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                        Good afternoon, California
                                        My name is Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio
                                        And if today I'm here at the 60th Super Bowl
                                        It's because I never, never stopped believing in me
                                        And you should, you should believe in yourself too
                                        You're more valuable than you think, believe me
                                        Heh

                                        [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                        Tell me, tell me, tell me, this is what you wanted?

                                        [Part VIII: Die With A Smile]

                                        [Intro]
                                        By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you husband and wife
                                        You may kiss the bride

                                        [Verse: Lady Gaga]
                                        Ooh, lost, lost in the words that we scream
                                        I don't even wanna do this anymore
                                        'Cause you already know what you mean to me
                                        And our love's the only war worth fighting for

                                        [Pre-Chorus: Lady Gaga]
                                        Wherever you go, that's where I'll follow
                                        Nobody's promised tomorrow
                                        So I'ma love you every night like it's the last night
                                        Like it's the last night

                                        [Chorus: Lady Gaga]
                                        If the world was ending
                                        I'd wanna be next to you
                                        If the party was over
                                        And our time on Earth was through
                                        I'd wanna hold you just for a while
                                        And die with a smile
                                        If the world was ending
                                        I'd wanna be next to you

                                        [Part IX: BAILE INoLVIDABLE]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                        While one is alive one must love as much as possible

                                        [Refrain: Bad Bunny]
                                        No, I can't forget you
                                        No, I can't erase you
                                        You taught me how to love
                                        You taught me how to dance

                                        [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                        And I've had many girlfriends
                                        But none like you
                                        I don't have my sun anymore, I live on the moon
                                        If I think of you, I'd go for it in an instant
                                        Ayy, ayy, my devil, my angel, my crazy girl, ayy
                                        My devil, my angel, my crazy girl, eh-eh

                                        [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                        Dance, dance, dance without fear
                                        Love without fear

                                        [Part X: NUEVAYoL]

                                        [Intro: Bad Bunny]
                                        New York!
                                        Okay

                                        [Chorus: Andy Montañez & Bad Bunny]
                                        If you wanna have fun
                                        With charm and delight
                                        You just have to liver (Where?)
                                        A summer in New York (New York!)
                                        If you wanna have fun (Eh, eh, eh, eh)
                                        With charm and delight (But what's this?)
                                        You just have to live (San Francisco)
                                        A summer in New York (Enjoy it, 'cause this is just for a bit)

                                        [Verse: Bad Bunny]
                                        Hey, hey, hey, July 4th, 4th of July
                                        I'm hanging out drunk with my cousin, feeling fly
                                        My people in The Bronx know what's up
                                        Buzzing high over in Washington Heights
                                        Willie Colón, they call me "The Bad One," hey
                                        'Cause the years go by and I'm still hitting hard
                                        Selling albums like Frida Kahlo paintings
                                        The coke is white, yeah, yeah, the 2CB's pink, eh-eh
                                        Don't get it twisted, no, no, better avoid it, ayy
                                        A shot of rum at Toñita's house and Puerto Rico feels so close
                                        I have the championship, nobody can take it from me

                                        [Interlude: Tito Trinidad & Bad Bunny]
                                        The best in the world
                                        Number one, the best in the world, ¿okay? Puerto Rico!
                                        Always believe in yourself

                                        [Outro: Bad Bunny]
                                        How's Bad Bunny gonna be the king of pop, ayy, with reggaetón and dembow?

                                        [Part XI: LO QUE LE PASÓ A HAWAii]

                                        [Chorus: Ricky Martin]
                                        They want to take my river and my beach too
                                        They want my neighborhood and grandma to leave
                                        No, don't let go of the flag nor forget the lelolai
                                        'Cause I don't want them to do to you what happened to Hawaii
                                        No, don't let go of the flag nor forget the lelolai
                                        'Cause I don't want them to do to you

                                        [Part XII: El Apagón]

                                        [Intro]
                                        With so much love for y'all

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                        Puerto Rico's so fucking great, heh, it's so fucking great

                                        [Verse 1: Bad Bunny]
                                        From Carolina came reggaeton and the sons of bitches from Bayamón
                                        Ayy, ayy, they want to ride the wave and they haven't gone to Rincón
                                        A little kiss for grandma on the balcony
                                        Catching all the holes, on the Rubicon
                                        P fuckin' R, ayy, land of Maelo and Tego Calderón
                                        And of Barea who was champion before than LeBron
                                        Hmm, damn, another blackout
                                        Let's go to the bleachers to light up a blunt
                                        Before Pipo gets a sla—

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                        Puerto Rico's so fu— great, heh, it's so fucking great
                                        Puerto Rico's so fu— great, ayy, ayy, ayy

                                        [Verse 2: Bad Bunny]
                                        Ditch Maldivas, I'm staying in Palomino, ayy
                                        If not then I'm going to DR, greetings to my neighbors, ayy
                                        Here the heat is different, the sun is taíno, ayy
                                        The capital of perreo, now everyone wants to be Latino, no
                                        But they lack rhythm, drums and reggaetón, ayy, ayy
                                        Careful with my friends, we're a bunch
                                        They lack rhythm, drums and reggaetón, ayy, ayy
                                        Careful with my friends, we're a bunch
                                        Welcome to the heat

                                        [Part XIII: CAFé CON RON]

                                        [Chorus: Los Pleneros de la Cresta & Bad Bunny]
                                        Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                        We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony
                                        Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                        We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony
                                        Coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon
                                        We're already out in the streets, come out to your balcony

                                        [Part XIV: DtMF]

                                        [Interlude: Bad Bunny]
                                        God bless America
                                        Doesn't matter if it's Chile, Argentina
                                        Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia
                                        Perú, Ecuador, Brasil, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana
                                        Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras
                                        El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico
                                        Cuba, Dominican Republic
                                        Jamaica, Haiti, the Antilles
                                        United States, Canada
                                        And my motherland, my homeland: Puerto Rico
                                        We're still here
                                        Now!

                                        [Chorus: Bad Bunny]
                                        I should've taken more pictures when I had you
                                        I should've given you more kisses and hugs whenever I could
                                        I hope my people never move away
                                        Thank you
                                        I should've taken more pictures

                                        [Outro]
                                        The National Football League and Apple Music thank you for watching the Super Bowl 60 halftime show

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                                          #47

                                          Of course the TPUSA family-friendly show had a man who (besides lip-syncing, couldn't even sing live like the Bunny) has previous songs with such Epstein-y lyrics like this:

                                          “Young ladies, young ladies, I like ’em underage/ See, some say that’s statutory/ But I say it’s mandatory.”

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