ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis

[Horace]

@Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

@Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

Sam's self-excavated echo chamber of one sure has had some consequences.

In what way? Has he upset his libertarian followers and folks will now boycott his podcasts?

I'm not silly enough to think that bad arguments are bad for business, in the social commentary business. The consequence of his echo chamber of one are just what I described. The quality of his arguments has nosedived, at least IMO. I can imagine they have galvanized his monetizable base. And Sam really likes monetizable fans.

[jon-nyc]

Didn’t listen to it. It seemed dated by the time it came out. That’s the problem with doing in-the-moment news on a weekly or so basis.

[Horace]

Not sure what "dated" has to do with it. He wasn't reporting the news, and the news he was commenting on seems to have been up to date with what we know now. It's just a window into what Sam thinks, for those who care. I think the trajectory of his quality of argumentation is remarkable. That was pure hyperbolic polemic.

[jon-nyc]

Dated in the sense that looking at the title of the podcast I felt that I already read and heard reams of people discussing it and didn’t think there was much more insight to be gleaned by any more.

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

The quality of his arguments has nosedived, at least IMO.

Not everyone can be Tucker Carlson you know.

[Horace]

A whataboutism. Oh, the tragic nosedive of argumentation. It's a pandemic.

[jon-nyc]

It that really a whattaboitism? In the years you’ve given up on Sam you’ve taken to listening to Tucker. That’s the reference. I agree one probably would never like both of them. At the same time in their life anyway.

[Horace]

Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

[Renauda]

Listened to the interview with Harris twice. Other than what I consider dogmatic support of the 2nd Amendment, I found his thinking about the killings and unprofessional tactics of the Troopers in line with my own thoughts on the matter.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

Hey, no need to bring me into your weird little ongoing marital spat.

And the fact that I prefer to spend my free time listening to light history podcasts rather than to these "personalities" you listen to doesn't mean I don't respect public personalities. I just don't happen to respect the ones you listen to.

Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great. Admittedly, nobody over here has probably heard of him, but that's hardly my fault. Adam Maness is somebody else I really like - he's a jazz pianist and commentator. Sorry, not everything is politics.

[Tom-K]

@Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

@Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great.

'"Bragg married his first wife, Marie-Elisabeth Roche (b. 1939).[39] In 1965 they had a daughter, Marie-Elsa Bragg.[40] Roche was a French viscountess studying painting at Oxford.[12] In 1971, Roche died by suicide.[41] In an interview with The Guardian in 1998, Bragg said, "I could have done things which helped and I did things which harmed. So yes, I feel guilt, I feel remorse."

You call that a fuckin' great guy? I think his wife felt, "not so much!"