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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    Sam's self-excavated echo chamber of one sure has had some consequences.

    In what way? Has he upset his libertarian followers and folks will now boycott his podcasts?

    I'm not silly enough to think that bad arguments are bad for business, in the social commentary business. The consequence of his echo chamber of one are just what I described. The quality of his arguments has nosedived, at least IMO. I can imagine they have galvanized his monetizable base. And Sam really likes monetizable fans.

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    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    The quality of his arguments has nosedived, at least IMO.

    Not everyone can be Tucker Carlson you know.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      A whataboutism. Oh, the tragic nosedive of argumentation. It's a pandemic.

      Education is extremely important.

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        It that really a whattaboitism? In the years you’ve given up on Sam you’ve taken to listening to Tucker. That’s the reference. I agree one probably would never like both of them. At the same time in their life anyway.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Listened to the interview with Harris twice. Other than what I consider dogmatic support of the 2nd Amendment, I found his thinking about the killings and unprofessional tactics of the Troopers in line with my own thoughts on the matter.

            Elbows up!

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

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              @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

              Hey, no need to bring me into your weird little ongoing marital spat.

              And the fact that I prefer to spend my free time listening to light history podcasts rather than to these "personalities" you listen to doesn't mean I don't respect public personalities. I just don't happen to respect the ones you listen to.

              Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great. Admittedly, nobody over here has probably heard of him, but that's hardly my fault. Adam Maness is somebody else I really like - he's a jazz pianist and commentator. Sorry, not everything is politics.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

                Hey, no need to bring me into your weird little ongoing marital spat.

                And the fact that I prefer to spend my free time listening to light history podcasts rather than to these "personalities" you listen to doesn't mean I don't respect public personalities. I just don't happen to respect the ones you listen to.

                Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great. Admittedly, nobody over here has probably heard of him, but that's hardly my fault. Adam Maness is somebody else I really like - he's a jazz pianist and commentator. Sorry, not everything is politics.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great.

                '"Bragg married his first wife, Marie-Elisabeth Roche (b. 1939).[39] In 1965 they had a daughter, Marie-Elsa Bragg.[40] Roche was a French viscountess studying painting at Oxford.[12] In 1971, Roche died by suicide.[41] In an interview with The Guardian in 1998, Bragg said, "I could have done things which helped and I did things which harmed. So yes, I feel guilt, I feel remorse."

                You call that a fuckin' great guy? I think his wife felt, "not so much!"

                Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

                  iceout.org

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                    Neighborhood groups have formed. One of the neighbors on our block held a meeting to sort through what to do. There are all kinds of informal ad hoc groups around the area. A friend attended a protest near one of the detention centers. Per her, there were a variety of groups there - not a massive centralized effort - more a bunch of small tribes.

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                      And no, I didn't go to the group down the block so I have no idea what we're all supposed to do.

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