The West Wing

[Horace]

I'm in the camp that thinks that nobody actually talks like that. But in so many shows these days, impossibly quick and clever dialogue is the norm. It strikes me as too affected, and I find it a little irritating. But that said, I've never watched the West Wing. I only noticed the change in dialog style over the years, and based on my exhaustive research, it can be traced back to that show.

[Horace]

@axtremus , here's Gemini's take.

The short answer is no, The West Wing did not invent it, but it is widely credited with reviving and popularizing it for modern television.

The specific style you are referring to is commonly called "Sorkin-esque" dialogue (after the show's creator, Aaron Sorkin) and is famously paired with a visual technique called the "Walk and Talk."

Here is the breakdown of the style's true origins and its massive influence on later TV.

1. The True Origin: Screwball Comedies

Aaron Sorkin has openly admitted that he did not invent this rhythmic, rapid-fire banter. He borrowed it from the screwball comedies of the 1930s and 1940s.

• The Blueprint: The most famous example is the 1940 film His Girl Friday (directed by Howard Hawks). If you watch it today, you will see the exact same DNA: hyper-articulate characters speaking in overlapping bursts.
• The Technique: In standard TV scripts, characters usually wait for the other person to finish speaking. Sorkin (and the screwball directors before him) utilized "overlapping dialogue," where characters step on the end of each other's sentences to create a sense of urgency and high intelligence.

2. The Innovation: The "Walk and Talk"

While Sorkin wrote the words, the visual style was perfected by director Thomas Schlamme.
Because the dialogue was so fast, standing still while saying it looked unnatural. Schlamme developed the "Walk and Talk"—long, continuous tracking shots where characters stride aggressively down hallways while exchanging dense information. This added a kinetic energy that tricked the audience into feeling the "rush" of the presidency, even if they didn't understand every policy detail being discussed.

3. Shows That Copied or Were Influenced by It

Before The West Wing, TV drama was generally slower and more expository. After its success, "smart people talking fast" became a dominant sub-genre.

• Gilmore Girls (2000–2007): Creator Amy Sherman-Palladino adopted the screwball pace for a family dramedy. Her scripts were famously 80 pages long (standard one-hour scripts are roughly 50 pages) because the characters spoke so quickly.
• Scandal (2012–2018): Shonda Rhimes’ shows (including Grey's Anatomy) utilize a similar cadence where characters deliver high-speed, hyper-articulate monologues, often while walking rapidly through corridors.
• Suits (2011–2019): This show is a direct descendant of the Sorkin style. The characters are all hyper-competent, speak almost exclusively in witty repartee, and rarely speak like normal humans.
• Billions: Features characters who speak in dense, pop-culture-laden metaphors at high speed.
• Veep: While it is a comedy (and a satire of The West Wing's idealism), it uses the same "Walk and Talk" structure and rapid-fire insults, effectively taking the Sorkin style and stripping out the politeness.

Verdict: The West Wing took a style from 1940s movies and proved it could work on 1990s television, creating a template that shows like Suits and Scandal are still using today.

[AndyD]

I was going to say some Bogart film dialogue might be a forerunner

[Mik]

I think it set the ambiance of the place - fast paced, high stress, very smart people.

[89th]

Not to pile on the bandwagon, but it's on my list to binge as well. Maybe I'll start it next week when I have to fly to DC again.

@andyd do you mean House or House of Cards? The latter I heard is amazing, but of course falls apart when Spacey is canceled. Not sure I want to invest time in a show that ends like that.

[jon-nyc]

Never seen an episode.

[89th]

Maybe we'll have a new Trump-based series called The East Wing and then the first episode is just it being torn down followed by 45 minutes of a spinning trump gold coin.

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in The West Wing:

Never seen an episode.

You really should.

[AndyD]

@89th
House, the Doctor. One of my daughters is currently binging it and I got sucked into a couple of episodes.

I'd add I bought the West Wing dvd set, it's that good.
House of Cards, I preferred the UK version.

[89th]

@andyd I see clips from House, it always seems interesting. Don't google a picture of what he looks like today, I believe he has aged or become ill or something. Unless it was fake, it was a bit sad. Anyway... I've always had a bit of an urge to binge ER one day, it seems like a show that really changed TV to an extent.

If anyone cares, and I know @george-k would... my favorite TV show of all time is The Shield. I plan to binge The Wire one day too, I've heard that it's ranked (along with Breaking Bad) as the best series of all.

[AndyD]

I suppose he, Laurie, is a couple of years older than me, and looking in the mirror I ain't too pretty these days

I'll add The Shield, ER, and The Wire to my list.

Happy New Year

[Doctor Phibes]

@89th said in The West Wing:

I plan to binge The Wire one day too, I've heard that it's ranked (along with Breaking Bad) as the best series of all.

I put off watching that for years, and then absolutely loved it. Dominic West was so convincing as an American cop that I didn't realise it was the same bloke that normally plays posh English blokes until about the third episode.