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The 2028 GOP primary thread

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    #25

    Please don’t make me have to choose between Vance and AOC.

    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      Don’t worry. I’d change my name to ‘None of the above’ and run myself.

      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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      • HoraceH Horace

        Since 2000, I count two presidential candidates with obviously more charisma than Vance. Obama and Trump.

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        @Horace said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

        Since 2000, I count two presidential candidates with obviously more charisma than Vance. Obama and Trump.

        Not John McCain or Mitt Romney?

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          Youngkin has been testing the waters.

          DeSantis is likely done. Latest polling has him at about 2%. The guy is so fucking competent but not only lacked the charisma, he lacked the balls to really take on Lame Donald. If he had just pounded on DJT/Fauci, DJT Vaccine, Trumpflation, DJT Shutdown, But he didn’t. I don’t get it, he’s shown plenty of killer instinct in FL…

          Maybe he’s best suited as a Chief of Staff?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #29

            I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

            I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            • MikM Offline
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              What may kill Vance is exactly that. Trump fatigue. Whether or not he'd behave similarly, he may still get tagged with it.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

                I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                @jon-nyc said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

                I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

                I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

                I think he tried to ride the middle on it too much. COVID was the biggest crack between Trump and that base. They despise Fauci. Trump gave him a commendation on his last day. They hate the vaccine. It was the Trump vaccine. They hate the lockdown, that was Trump. They hate all of the times that different narratives were stated by the health departments as being fake news only to be proven true. They hate the way the government tossed around checks and money and the inflation that resulted (Trump as well as Biden). They hate the abuse and sheer fraud of the Payroll Protection “loans”, that was Trump. DeSantis was the one guy that could really have laid this at Trump’s feet. Especially after the way they went to war over Florida reopening.

                If I was on DeSantis campaign staff, every frigging commercial would have started with the official Presidential Commendation. When Trump gave his denial and said he didn’t know who did that, I would have had DeSantis ask him if he “was a liar or incompetent, which is it?”. I would have started every debate by politely greeting Trump and asking about his good friend, Dr. Fauci. I would have had him read off the many already known of PPE grants given to companies that were actually posting record profits even without the government money during the pandemic.

                The message would have been “When we needed you, you failed us. Again, and again, and again.” Lame Donald…

                The Brad

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                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                    I like Vance OK, but he's vulnerable. His association with Trump was the fast track to a potential WH bid, but it comes with a whole lot of baggage. The GOP also has a far deeper bench of attractive candidates.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      I was thinking today. If Obama ran again in 2028, I’d think he’d win by a landslide.

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