The 2028 GOP primary thread

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

You want charisma or competence? Charisma buys you Newsom.

It's not what I want that's important. Charisma = Electability

So you agree Trump and Vance have charisma.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

So you agree Trump and Vance have charisma.

Trump does. Vance, not so much. You might disagree, but I really don't think Vance had much to do with Trump getting elected. His last VP was much the same. I honestly can't remember his name as a write this, which says something....

I could point out that charisma obviously isn't necessarily a good thing. A trawl through the history books can teach us that.

[jon-nyc]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

So you agree Trump and Vance have charisma.

I could point out that charisma obviously isn't necessarily a good thing. A trawl through the history books my post history can teach us that.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

So you agree Trump and Vance have charisma.

I could point out that charisma obviously isn't necessarily a good thing. A trawl through the history books my post history can teach us that.

You've met me, you know how how charismatic I am.

Actually, come to think of it, you might not remember.

[Mik]

I thought you quite charismatic. It's too bad we're not close enough to lift a pint from time to time. I really enjoyed meeting you, Quirt, Mary Anna and Beelady.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

I thought you quite charismatic. It's too bad we're not close enough to lift a pint from time to time. I really enjoyed meeting you, Quirt, Mary Anna and Beelady.

Yes, it would be nice to meet up again. I used to see Quirt from time to time, but he's moved now, as have I.

[Mik]

I just pinged him on FB this morning to see how they're doing in NYC. He isn't on WTF much if at all.

[89th]

@Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

Megan Kelly wants JD with Marco as his VP.

Vance/Rubio to me seems like the obvious choice, almost a foregone conclusion.

I'm not sure I would say Vance has charisma, but he's much more eloquent and able to defend a position than Trump.

[jon-nyc]

I’m still thinking Uday or Qusay will throw his hat in the ring.

[Horace]

Since 2000, I count two presidential candidates with obviously more charisma than Vance. Obama and Trump.

[jon-nyc]

I think W beats him, though maybe not obviously so. Grok and ChatGPT both agree for whatever that’s worth.

Prompted as follows:

Who has more charisma , Vance or GW Bush (consider Bush as he was 25 years ago)

[jon-nyc]

Maybe McCain too. But I’ll say Vance over Kerry, Romney, Hillary, and Biden.

[89th]

and Gore, too.

[jon-nyc]

Yep.

His one and only flash of likeability came when he read the top 10 list on letterman that someone else wrote for him.

[LuFins Dad]

Please don’t make me have to choose between Vance and AOC.

[jon-nyc]

Don’t worry. I’d change my name to ‘None of the above’ and run myself.

[Axtremus]

@Horace said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

Since 2000, I count two presidential candidates with obviously more charisma than Vance. Obama and Trump.

Not John McCain or Mitt Romney?

[LuFins Dad]

Youngkin has been testing the waters.

DeSantis is likely done. Latest polling has him at about 2%. The guy is so fucking competent but not only lacked the charisma, he lacked the balls to really take on Lame Donald. If he had just pounded on DJT/Fauci, DJT Vaccine, Trumpflation, DJT Shutdown, But he didn’t. I don’t get it, he’s shown plenty of killer instinct in FL…

Maybe he’s best suited as a Chief of Staff?

[jon-nyc]

I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

[Mik]

What may kill Vance is exactly that. Trump fatigue. Whether or not he'd behave similarly, he may still get tagged with it.