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Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    #61

    I wouldn’t waste much effort attempting to understand populist appeal that I find is morally repugnant.

    Elbows up!

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      I agree a white racial backlash was inevitable to one degree or another once the dominant cultural institutions normalized the expression of racial animus against whites sometime during Obama’s second term. But it’s still worth doing what we can to minimize their impact on the culture.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

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        Axtremus
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        @jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

        As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

        @mik whats your take on the “Ohio politics” aspect of this?

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          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • 89th8 Online
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            89th
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            #65

            If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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            • 89th8 89th

              If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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              Horace
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              @89th said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

              If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time.

              Not sure what it'll mean to you that he carries Trump's water, but his communication style will certainly be different, and I trust that his ethical boundaries will be different as well.

              If the country is doing well in 2028, the refreshing change to an adult style leader who will carry on with mostly the same policies will be a tough combination to beat.

              Or if the left is correct in the prediction that Trump will be an objectively measurable disaster, then Vance won't win anyway.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • 89th8 Online
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                That is a good post, fair points. I guess I meant if Trump is somehow the puppet master then Vance would be a no-go for me. Otherwise your analysis makes sense.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  That is a good post, fair points. I guess I meant if Trump is somehow the puppet master then Vance would be a no-go for me. Otherwise your analysis makes sense.

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                  #68

                  @89th said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                  if Trump is somehow the puppet master

                  I'm guessing/hoping Vance will try and divest himself of Trump's malignancy once he becomes a lame duck in a year or so. How to do that without upsetting his base might be an interesting challenge.

                  I was only joking

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @Axtremus said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                      Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

                      I'm just hoping for the best whoever gets elected. I find it hard to believe that things will get worse than they are currently, but I've been wrong before on that count.

                      I was only joking

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                        #71

                        Seems as good a place as any for this.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          #72

                          You think his failure to mention ‘Jews’ or to condemn the Nazis was strategic?

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            No I don't think he's afraid to say he doesn't like Nazis. I don't think he's afraid to say he likes Jews and Israel. His boss sure isn't.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #74

                              Different calculations. He seems to be far more hesitant than his boss is about alienating any part of the right.

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                Being against Hitler would be a political liability, but being against the Holocaust is just fine. Interesting "calculation". Trying to preserve the more measured Hitler fans on the right, who actually thought the Holocaust crossed a line?

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  #76

                                  @jon-nyc I think it was somewhat calculated. President Trump has no filter and whatever he thinks, he posts. I dont believe that VP Vance is the same. More like President Obama, where everything is carefully thought out before saying anything. Very little "off the cuff" stuff.

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                                    #77

                                    Meagan Kelly and Mark Levine, or as she calls him Micro Penis, go at it.

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      This reminds me, as much of Trump's ecosystem does, of a 3rd grade recess fight where in this case you have 2 people surrounded by students, and instead of talking to each other they are yelling their insights for the crowds to hear and seeing who gets the most cheers.

                                      They say Americans read at a 7th grade level, I sure wish we could get there again.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        They all have cooties.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                          Micropeni make for strange bedfellows.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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