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Auto makers ditching Apple and Android car play?

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-real-reason-automakers-are-ditching-apple-carplay-and-android-auto/ar-AA1OoWoC

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Worst case, I return to driving as if CarPlay has not been introduced.
      Simple after-market phone holder attached to the dashboard will do, like the good old days.
      Hack, I have to do that from time to time anyway because CarPlay sometimes just refuse to work and I don’t feel like restarting the car or rebooting the phone just to make CarPlay work.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        Seems doomed to fail. There’s no way the car companies are going to compete with the open ecosystems of Apple and Android and most customers simply won’t buy cars that don’t seamlessly integrate with their phones.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Seems doomed to fail. There’s no way the car companies are going to compete with the open ecosystems of Apple and Android and most customers simply won’t buy cars that don’t seamlessly integrate with their phones.

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          @jon-nyc said in Auto makers ditching Apple and Android car play?:

          Seems doomed to fail. There’s no way the car companies are going to compete with the open ecosystems of Apple and Android and most customers simply won’t buy cars that don’t seamlessly integrate with their phones.

          That would have been my initial reaction as well, but then again Tesla does, according to the article, not support Carplay et al and consumers still buy it.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            Yeah but people who buy teslas are already resigned to a bunch of trade offs. They’ve already decided they are interested in a very nonstandard car.

            Not sure the (say) Honda CRV drivers are going to be of the same mindset.

            I know my next car will have wireless CarPlay.

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Seems doomed to fail. There’s no way the car companies are going to compete with the open ecosystems of Apple and Android and most customers simply won’t buy cars that don’t seamlessly integrate with their phones.

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              @jon-nyc said in Auto makers ditching Apple and Android car play?:

              Seems doomed to fail. There’s no way the car companies are going to compete with the open ecosystems of Apple and Android and most customers simply won’t buy cars that don’t seamlessly integrate with their phones.

              Totally agree.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                I remember having a similar argument with Loki about in-car navigation systems. There was no way Audi or Lexus was going to keep up with Google. Just was never in the cards.

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  My 2014 accord doesn't have it and I don't miss it. I have had some nightmare tech support experiences with my mom, trying to get her luxury vehicle to pair with her iPhone. And the process with rental cars is also always unpleasant.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    I didn’t miss it before I had it either.

                    Same with a backup camera.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #10

                      I don't need it unless I'm traversing an area I don't know well. I'm seldom in a car long enough to care about what music is playing. I usually listen to NPR anyway. Although on last year's rental of a Cadillac XT4 it was pretty cool because the screen went all across the dash.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        My 2014 accord doesn't have it and I don't miss it. I have had some nightmare tech support experiences with my mom, trying to get her luxury vehicle to pair with her iPhone. And the process with rental cars is also always unpleasant.

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                        @Horace said in Auto makers ditching Apple and Android car play?:

                        And the process with rental cars is also always unpleasant.

                        +1
                        I take advantage of CarPlay when it works without too much trouble, otherwise I fallback to putting/attaching my iPhone onto the dash and get on as if CarPlay has never existed.

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                          They'll have to pry CarPlay out of my cold, dead hands.

                          I'm never going back to listening to American radio stations. It's no wonder you chaps shoot one another so much.

                          I was only joking

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                            I don’t actually use CarPlay, just connect via Bluetooth… But that being said, having watched Karla use Android Auto, it sucks and are basically all Google Apps, anyway…

                            Still, it seems like the easier solution is negotiating data sharing.

                            The Brad

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                              I use CarPlay each time, and in rental cars is easy to connect 90% of the time. It’s easy to have a nice map interface, messages, podcast, and we use YouTube Music.

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                                I rarely have an issue with rental cars. If I do it’s that there are no more ‘slots’ and I have to delete a few former renter’s iPhones from the list.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  I always delete my phone info when I return it.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    If you don’t, I will. Eventually.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                      😂 that’s if you return your car at all Jon!

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                                        One rental car only had USB-C connections. That one threw me for a loop since all my cords were regular USB connections.

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                                          I hate it when I buy some electronic thing and it gives me a USB-A.

                                          Seriously? In 2025?

                                          That grill roomba was like that. Reminds me I owe them a shit review on Amazon. I should wait until spring so more people see it.

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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