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We need a Venezuela thread

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • MikM Mik

      It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?

      As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.

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      @Mik said in We need a Venezuela thread:

      It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?

      As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.

      Seems reasonable. The message is sent regardless of what happens to the survivors.

      Education is extremely important.

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        We don't need the expense of incarcerating them here. I rather doubt they'll be engaging in future voyages.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

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          @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

          I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

          I think a government can act on intelligence in international drug trafficking matters, that they don't want to process through domestic courts of law, when there's little to nothing to be gained by doing so.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

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            @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

            I don't think survival is the point, amirite

            Honestly I'm still surprised Trump didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.

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              https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-military-deploy-aircraft-carrier-south-america-amid-soaring-tensions-with-2025-10-24/

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                So much peace I’m getting tired of it.

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                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-real-reason-trump-is-preparing-for-war-with-venezuela/ar-AA1PatfT

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        #24

                        Though the betting odds of him leaving are markedly down (even after adjusting for time passes since the former screenshot).

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                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          ‘Only’? November 30th is two weeks away.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              I've been watching ADSB (FlightRadar247) activity east of Aruba for a while, watching these growlers go up (and now RHINO21).... lots of activity.

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                                Venezuela stole “our” oil and land.

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                                This is the guy who always says we should have taken Iraq’s oil, after all.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Trump gets Venezuela and Putin will get Ukraine. Sounds about right.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Tomorrow night he’s doing a prime time address. I was hoping he’d use it to tell us that affordability is a hoax. Now it sounds like he’ll be talking about Venezuelan ‘WMD’ and ‘our’ oil.

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        This past weekend Trump lifted sanctions on potash exports from Belarus. Last week Trump announced a 10% tariff on potash imports from Canada. The US imports 70% of its potash from Saskatchewan. It will now be able to import potash heavily discounted from Belarus.

                                        Today Trump has claimed ownership of Venezuelan heavy oil production. Why would he continue to import tariffed heavy oil from Alberta?

                                        Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. He is now going after the industrial bases in Saskatchewan and as of today, Alberta.

                                        I attribute it to covetous malice.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          It occurred to me that it would be hard to get the bulk of the Venezuelan people to rally around Maduro, but this ‘our oil’ and ‘our land’ talk might just do it.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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