Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. We need a Venezuela thread

We need a Venezuela thread

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
25 Posts 7 Posters 752 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • kluursK kluurs

    Venezuela will be our 52nd state

    AxtremusA Offline
    AxtremusA Offline
    Axtremus
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @kluurs said in We need a Venezuela thread:

    Venezuela will be our 52nd state

    Wait ... what happened to Canada and Greenland?

    1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
      #7

      So the evidence that they’re running drugs is sufficient to kill them but not strong enough to secure a conviction.

      Got it.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

      1 Reply Last reply
      • HoraceH Offline
        HoraceH Offline
        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        What's the theory here, that the Trump admin is blowing up random boats for the spectacle and marketing of it?

        Under the obviously fanciful and completely impossible scenario that they had compelling evidence that it was a drug boat, is there any chance that the next most reasonable move after scooping up survivors, was to ship them back to their home country?

        Just an exercise in steel manning - I will stipulate for the sake of this discussion that everything the Trump administration does is random, evil, and stupid.

        Education is extremely important.

        1 Reply Last reply
        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

          HoraceH 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

            HoraceH Offline
            HoraceH Offline
            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

            That's not the theory I asked for.

            Education is extremely important.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Sorry the theory you asked for is wrong. I gave you the correct theory instead.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

              HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?

                As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

                HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Sorry the theory you asked for is wrong. I gave you the correct theory instead.

                  HoraceH Offline
                  HoraceH Offline
                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                  Sorry the theory you asked for is wrong. I gave you the correct theory instead.

                  Let me try again. What is the theory of the motivation of the Trump admin to be sinking these boats?

                  Education is extremely important.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                    • MikM Mik

                      It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?

                      As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.

                      HoraceH Offline
                      HoraceH Offline
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      @Mik said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                      It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?

                      As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.

                      Seems reasonable. The message is sent regardless of what happens to the survivors.

                      Education is extremely important.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        We don't need the expense of incarcerating them here. I rather doubt they'll be engaging in future voyages.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

                          HoraceH Offline
                          HoraceH Offline
                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                          I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.

                          I think a government can act on intelligence in international drug trafficking matters, that they don't want to process through domestic courts of law, when there's little to nothing to be gained by doing so.

                          Education is extremely important.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

                            89th8 Online
                            89th8 Online
                            89th
                            wrote last edited by
                            #18

                            @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                            The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.

                            I don't think survival is the point, amirite

                            Honestly I'm still surprised Trump didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #19

                              https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-military-deploy-aircraft-carrier-south-america-amid-soaring-tensions-with-2025-10-24/

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • 89th8 Online
                                89th8 Online
                                89th
                                wrote last edited by
                                #20

                                So much peace I’m getting tired of it.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #21

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-real-reason-trump-is-preparing-for-war-with-venezuela/ar-AA1PatfT

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #22

                                    IMG_8525.jpeg

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #23

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #24

                                        Though the betting odds of him leaving are markedly down (even after adjusting for time passes since the former screenshot).

                                        IMG_8550.png

                                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        • jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #25

                                          ‘Only’? November 30th is two weeks away.

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups