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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:

    Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.

    On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.

    Trump launched what would become the largest immunization campaign in history during his first term.

    On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.

    Don’t be fooled for a minute. Trump is very much a globalist, he just believes that the US as the largest market is not getting the preferential treatment in trade agreements that he believes they should.

    On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.

    In case you didn’t notice, NATO has expanded since 2016, adding four new nations. In addition and more importantly, NATO nations have expanded their spending and grown their military capabilities substantially.

    As far as multilateralism, Trump has very much embraced it, from the Abraham Accords, to his efforts to get ME nations to proactively and publicly try to help with the Palestinian/Israel conflict, to his insistence that Europe has to be much more involved in the Ukrainian/Russian war.

    Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?

    By actually paying attention.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:

    By actually paying attention.

    IMHO Trump isn't an anything philosophically. He mostly just has a lot of individual ideas, some of which change from week to week, or even I suspect hour to hour.

    He could suddenly announce he's going to cancel the Green Card program, or he's going to legalize heroin, or he's going to build a massive fuck-off monument in Albuquerque NM paying homage to Randolph Scott, and a bunch of people would nod and say this was exactly what America needs right now.

    IOW, he's all over the place. Whether this is by design or due to an increasing lack of cognitive ability is of course open to the reader.

    I was only joking

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      If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • MikM Mik

        If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

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        @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

        If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

        And to think they said satire was dead.

        I was only joking

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          Take a look at CBS.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • MikM Mik

            Take a look at CBS.

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            @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

            Take a look at CBS.

            Right, they've got a new person promising to be Fair and Balanced. If I remember correctly, Jolly used to say the most objective news on Cable TV was Fox. I think that tells us something about human nature.

            Personally, I think the most objective news is on the BBC, who by some massive coincidence also happen to be slightly left of center and British, just like me.

            I was only joking

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              Funny …this came up on my feed.

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              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                Ha

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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