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  • MikM Away
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    If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • MikM Mik

      If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

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      @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

      If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.

      And to think they said satire was dead.

      I was only joking

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      • MikM Away
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        Take a look at CBS.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          Take a look at CBS.

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          @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

          Take a look at CBS.

          Right, they've got a new person promising to be Fair and Balanced. If I remember correctly, Jolly used to say the most objective news on Cable TV was Fox. I think that tells us something about human nature.

          Personally, I think the most objective news is on the BBC, who by some massive coincidence also happen to be slightly left of center and British, just like me.

          I was only joking

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          • MikM Away
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            Funny …this came up on my feed.

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            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              #27

              Ha

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                jon-nyc
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                #28

                Does anyone care?

                Here’s a telling sign of where we are: On day 15, there are zero stories about the government shutdown in both the print NYT and print WSJ.

                WaPo too, apparently.

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  AndyD
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                  #29

                  Can I just ask what the hell is going on?
                  I mean, as I understand our UK system, we pay taxes for an appointed Civil Service which is trained and actions over years whatever our various elected governments asks of them.

                  In the USA you have to agree on a budget annually to pay the equivalent people; a small amount is mandated but a huge amount is discretionary.

                  Yet even when both US houses support Trump they can't agree on a budget, so start firing people?
                  WTF?

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                    #30

                    They need a certain number of votes that they can’t get by themselves. A simple majority in the senate isn’t sufficient, they need 60 votes which can only happen with democratic support.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                      AndyD
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                      #31

                      Ah.
                      Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?

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                        #32

                        Yeah. It is.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • A AndyD

                          Ah.
                          Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @AndyD said in Shutdown Length:

                          Ah.
                          Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?

                          The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.

                          The Brad

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                            @AndyD said in Shutdown Length:

                            Ah.
                            Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?

                            The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:

                            @AndyD said in Shutdown Length:

                            Ah.
                            Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?

                            The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.

                            Do Congress and the Senate get paid?

                            And to think people say there are no stupid questions.

                            I was only joking

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                              #35

                              https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/10/01/government-shutdown-military-service-members/86453130007/

                              Interesting reading🤔

                              https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/12/politics/shutdown-military-families-paychecks

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                                So a bit of creative accounting to keep certain people happy while others suffer.

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