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Poll results on who gets blamed for the shutdown:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2025/government-shutdown-trump-congress-poll/
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The idea of an over/under is you’re indifferent to which you’d take.
I’ll take 20 days. The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
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The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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The idea of an over/under is you’re indifferent to which you’d take.
I’ll take 20 days. The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
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The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
Trump blinks?
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said in Shutdown Length:
The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
@jon-nyc said in Shutdown Length:
said in Shutdown Length:
The impass gets broken with some compromise on extending ACA premium subsidies (but not Medicare).
That doesn’t really mean much of anything on its own. You know that, right?
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@Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:
Single payer universal healthcare FTW!!!
Great! Just so long as you’re the payer. And I get every service that I want.
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I don’t think so. I think he’d like to be the president who establishes universal healthcare. Very transformational.
@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
I don’t think so. I think he’d like to be the president who establishes universal healthcare. Very transformational.
I believe that way back when, President Trump was quite in favor of universal health care.
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@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
I don’t think so. I think he’d like to be the president who establishes universal healthcare. Very transformational.
I believe that way back when, President Trump was quite in favor of universal health care.
@taiwan_girl said in Shutdown Length:
@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
I don’t think so. I think he’d like to be the president who establishes universal healthcare. Very transformational.
I believe that way back when, President Trump was quite in favor of universal health care.
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
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@taiwan_girl said in Shutdown Length:
@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
I don’t think so. I think he’d like to be the president who establishes universal healthcare. Very transformational.
I believe that way back when, President Trump was quite in favor of universal health care.
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
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His taste in young interns?
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LOL
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@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
@Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
Trump launched what would become the largest immunization campaign in history during his first term.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
Don’t be fooled for a minute. Trump is very much a globalist, he just believes that the US as the largest market is not getting the preferential treatment in trade agreements that he believes they should.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.
In case you didn’t notice, NATO has expanded since 2016, adding four new nations. In addition and more importantly, NATO nations have expanded their spending and grown their military capabilities substantially.
As far as multilateralism, Trump has very much embraced it, from the Abraham Accords, to his efforts to get ME nations to proactively and publicly try to help with the Palestinian/Israel conflict, to his insistence that Europe has to be much more involved in the Ukrainian/Russian war.
Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
By actually paying attention.
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@Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
Trump launched what would become the largest immunization campaign in history during his first term.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
Don’t be fooled for a minute. Trump is very much a globalist, he just believes that the US as the largest market is not getting the preferential treatment in trade agreements that he believes they should.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.
In case you didn’t notice, NATO has expanded since 2016, adding four new nations. In addition and more importantly, NATO nations have expanded their spending and grown their military capabilities substantially.
As far as multilateralism, Trump has very much embraced it, from the Abraham Accords, to his efforts to get ME nations to proactively and publicly try to help with the Palestinian/Israel conflict, to his insistence that Europe has to be much more involved in the Ukrainian/Russian war.
Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
By actually paying attention.
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
By actually paying attention.
IMHO Trump isn't an anything philosophically. He mostly just has a lot of individual ideas, some of which change from week to week, or even I suspect hour to hour.
He could suddenly announce he's going to cancel the Green Card program, or he's going to legalize heroin, or he's going to build a massive fuck-off monument in Albuquerque NM paying homage to Randolph Scott, and a bunch of people would nod and say this was exactly what America needs right now.
IOW, he's all over the place. Whether this is by design or due to an increasing lack of cognitive ability is of course open to the reader.
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If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
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If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
And to think they said satire was dead.
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@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
Take a look at CBS.
Right, they've got a new person promising to be Fair and Balanced. If I remember correctly, Jolly used to say the most objective news on Cable TV was Fox. I think that tells us something about human nature.
Personally, I think the most objective news is on the BBC, who by some massive coincidence also happen to be slightly left of center and British, just like me.
