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@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
@Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
Trump launched what would become the largest immunization campaign in history during his first term.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
Don’t be fooled for a minute. Trump is very much a globalist, he just believes that the US as the largest market is not getting the preferential treatment in trade agreements that he believes they should.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.
In case you didn’t notice, NATO has expanded since 2016, adding four new nations. In addition and more importantly, NATO nations have expanded their spending and grown their military capabilities substantially.
As far as multilateralism, Trump has very much embraced it, from the Abraham Accords, to his efforts to get ME nations to proactively and publicly try to help with the Palestinian/Israel conflict, to his insistence that Europe has to be much more involved in the Ukrainian/Russian war.
Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
By actually paying attention.
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@Axtremus said in Shutdown Length:
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
Again. Trump is a Clinton Democrat. I’ve said it several dozen times.
On healthcare, he is not. Bill Clinton launched childhood immunization initiatives during his presidency.
Trump launched what would become the largest immunization campaign in history during his first term.
On global trade, he is also not. Bill Clinton embraced globalization.
Don’t be fooled for a minute. Trump is very much a globalist, he just believes that the US as the largest market is not getting the preferential treatment in trade agreements that he believes they should.
On foreign policy, he is also not. Bill Clinton promoted NATO expansion, the UN, and multilateralism.
In case you didn’t notice, NATO has expanded since 2016, adding four new nations. In addition and more importantly, NATO nations have expanded their spending and grown their military capabilities substantially.
As far as multilateralism, Trump has very much embraced it, from the Abraham Accords, to his efforts to get ME nations to proactively and publicly try to help with the Palestinian/Israel conflict, to his insistence that Europe has to be much more involved in the Ukrainian/Russian war.
Heck, how did you convince yourself that Trump is a Clinton Democrat?
By actually paying attention.
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
By actually paying attention.
IMHO Trump isn't an anything philosophically. He mostly just has a lot of individual ideas, some of which change from week to week, or even I suspect hour to hour.
He could suddenly announce he's going to cancel the Green Card program, or he's going to legalize heroin, or he's going to build a massive fuck-off monument in Albuquerque NM paying homage to Randolph Scott, and a bunch of people would nod and say this was exactly what America needs right now.
IOW, he's all over the place. Whether this is by design or due to an increasing lack of cognitive ability is of course open to the reader.
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If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
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If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
If all he does is move journalism back to presenting facts rather than opinions and propaganda he will have been a very consequential president.
And to think they said satire was dead.
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@Mik said in Shutdown Length:
Take a look at CBS.
Right, they've got a new person promising to be Fair and Balanced. If I remember correctly, Jolly used to say the most objective news on Cable TV was Fox. I think that tells us something about human nature.
Personally, I think the most objective news is on the BBC, who by some massive coincidence also happen to be slightly left of center and British, just like me.
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Can I just ask what the hell is going on?
I mean, as I understand our UK system, we pay taxes for an appointed Civil Service which is trained and actions over years whatever our various elected governments asks of them.In the USA you have to agree on a budget annually to pay the equivalent people; a small amount is mandated but a huge amount is discretionary.
Yet even when both US houses support Trump they can't agree on a budget, so start firing people?
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Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?@AndyD said in Shutdown Length:
Ah.
Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.
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@AndyD said in Shutdown Length:
Ah.
Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.
@LuFins-Dad said in Shutdown Length:
@AndyD said in Shutdown Length:
Ah.
Still, surely isn't it ridiculous that your country can't give their necessary federal workers, including military(?), a steady job and salary?The military is receiving pay. A better phrasing for this would be “Non-Essential Government Shutdown”. Military, security, law enforcement, Social Security, Medicare, HUD, Vet services, all continue.
Do Congress and the Senate get paid?
And to think people say there are no stupid questions.
