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Shutdown Length

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #91

    It also seems likely, if not quite obvious, that Trump is such an outsized figure in all political happenings, that he’ll mostly get blamed for it. regardless of what a more nuanced take might be.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote last edited by Mik
      #92

      One side wants to open the government. the other side is holding their breath until they get what they want, contrary to what they voted for in establishing an expiration for the additional subsidies.

      Coincidentally there was a piece on COVID fraud being prosecuted on Full Measure this morning. One Minnesota group scammed 250 million. We really need to quit paying for pandemic related stuff.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        wrote last edited by
        #93

        End in sight?

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote last edited by
          #94

          Let us hope.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
            wrote last edited by
            #95

            Details

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-senate-advances-bill-to-end-federal-shutdown/ar-AA1Q8zJV

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by
              #96

              Watch my flight get cancelled tomorrow anyway. lol

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
                wrote last edited by
                #97

                Quite possible. this will take a few days to unwind.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #98

                  The senators who voted for the deal are a surprise. They took a deal that was offered a month ago and put the US through this wholly unnecessary trauma for no good end.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-very-bad-night-democrats-face-blowback-from-their-own-party-over-shutdown-deal/ar-AA1QaFLq

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #99

                    Well they did get a promise for a vote on healthcare which wasn’t offered last time.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #100

                      It was offered a month ago.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #101

                        Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #102

                          @jon-nyc said in Shutdown Length:

                          Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

                          (Snort)

                          The Brad

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            #103

                            Link to video

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              #104

                              When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              • MikM Mik

                                When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

                                LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote last edited by
                                #105

                                @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

                                When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

                                He, and Jon Stewart, are forgetting something. Fighting the “good fight” and opposing Trump at all costs is great politics in California and Massachusetts. States where Dem control is solid. But in purple states like PA, NH, NV, and Maine? You need crossover support. You need independents and even some Republican support. So you need to show some ability to compromise and actually legislate. Kaine in particular needed to get Northern Virginians back to work. Remember that specific polling of public sector labor unions (FFS, how do they even exist?) showed the majority supported this deal over three weeks ago. It even caused a split with the Dem aligned labor unions.

                                The Brad

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #106

                                  It was just foolishness.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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