RBG has passed away
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If they have the votes, they have the votes.
In 2016 they had the ability to block so they blocked.
Everything else is just noise.
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@Loki said in RBG has passed away:
Calling people hypocrites and accusing them of impure motives is but actually hilarious given what we have witnessed since the last election.
How anyone can make this charge with a straight face is beyond me.Ann Althouse comments:
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But also be clear about this: Was Barack Obama wrong to nominate Merrick Garland? You must clearly say that he was or I won't "let you" be clear.
Let me be clear: The voters should pick a President, and that President should select a successor to Justice Ginsburg.
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 19, 2020ADDED: From Barack Obama's statement on the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg:
Four and a half years ago, when Republicans refused to hold a hearing or an up-or-down vote on Merrick Garland, they invented the principle that the Senate shouldn’t fill an open seat on the Supreme Court before a new president was sworn in.
A basic principle of the law — and of everyday fairness — is that we apply rules with consistency, and not based on what’s convenient or advantageous in the moment.
How does that basic principle apply to you, President Obama? You went ahead and made a nomination. Why shouldn't the new President follow his predecessor's precedent. What can you say to me that isn't "based on what’s convenient or advantageous in the moment"? It's hard to play the hypocrisy card!
AND:
.@GOP We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 19, 2020ALSO: Speaking of "what's convenient or advantageous in the moment," why did Senator Kamala Harris vote against Neil Gorsuch?! Here's her statement. Can anyone seriously portray that as based on anything lofty?
Judge Gorsuch's deeply conservative views put him well outside the mainstream.... Given the controversial nature of this nominee, it is deeply unfortunate Senate Republicans took unprecedented steps to ram Judge Gorsuch through the Senate instead of the President working with Democrats and Republicans to find a consensus nominee.
That's a frank claim of power by a Senator. Obama frankly exercised the power that he had to make a nomination, and the Senators frankly exercised the power that they had. They haven't laid the groundwork to argue that the Senate majority shouldn't cast the votes it has and confirm.
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@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
If they have the votes, they have the votes.
In 2016 they had the ability to block so they blocked.
Everything else is just noise.
Yup.
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@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”
Senate elections have consequences.
Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it
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If it was a Dem held Senate in 2016, what would have been the results?
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@89th said in RBG has passed away:
@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”
Senate elections have consequences.
Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it
Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.
Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.
But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in RBG has passed away:
@89th said in RBG has passed away:
@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”
Senate elections have consequences.
Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it
Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.
Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.
But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?
She has my respect, but that respect does not encompass dying wishes for how government shoud proceed.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Mik said in RBG has passed away:
She has my respect, but that respect does not encompass dying wishes for how government shoud proceed.
As I said earlier, and as I said when Trump was running for President, her interjection of her personal opinions into politics cost her a lot of respect points in my book.
A jurist should respect the law and constitution, as written. To say that you're thinking about leaving the country if OrangeMan wins, in one statement, undermined any credibility she had.
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Education is extremely important.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
