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Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    While he campaigned on prioritizing serious criminals for deportation, the focus on absolute numbers has meant the real priority became grabbing whomever is easiest to grab.

    This seems like that could get reversed?

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      Adaptability is a good thing.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #3

        Some of course will say ‘who cares deport them all’ but our immigration courts only have so much capacity and they’re probably at most going to process 500-600k a year. So maybe he gets to deport 2 to 2.5MM in his term. Then it’s clear why prioritization matters and why they should target criminals and drug dealers rather than just raid every restaurant, farm, and car wash in America.

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        • MikM Away
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          I have to agree with that.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              One problem is that the majority of the serious criminal catches have been in these widespread raids. Another issue is the sweeping enforcement has been one of the primary drivers of the reduced crossings. If you reduce these raids, do you ultimately encourage more crossings?

              The Brad

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #7

                Good questions.

                By the way I think I’m making tacos tonight.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • MikM Away
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                  I don't think so. Security at the border has been beefed up.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    You can also conduct raids and only grab those you identify as criminals. it should not be all that hard.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                        @Axtremus said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                        Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

                        This sounds reasonable to me.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Or fine them and put them m step one of the standard immigration process. If they violate any steps, then deport them.

                          Don’t reward lawbreaking. You are just penalizing those that did it the right way.

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Away
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                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              He TACOed on his TACO.

                              It’s Tacos all the way down.

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                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                TACO is the new flip-flop.

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                                  #16

                                  Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                  So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                  Ok.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    I wonder if we’re going to see Lutnik/Bessent style ping pong with Miller and the Ag Secretary. Where policy swings back and forth twice a week based on who talked to him last.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                      So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                      Ok.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                      Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                      So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                      So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        Like @Mik's other thread title, this is sad.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                          Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                          So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                          So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                          Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                          So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                          So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                                          Not at all. In general, you are going to see the more criminal element of the illegals living in urban centers. More people, easier to hide, and easier to score. MS13 13 and TdA aren’t generally living in a farming community of 5800 in Oklahoma, they’re living in the he DMV, a metro region with 6M people, and not much agri-business, but plenty of food packaging and processing business, where many shenanigans occur.

                                          The Brad

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