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Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      One problem is that the majority of the serious criminal catches have been in these widespread raids. Another issue is the sweeping enforcement has been one of the primary drivers of the reduced crossings. If you reduce these raids, do you ultimately encourage more crossings?

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Good questions.

        By the way I think I’m making tacos tonight.

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        • MikM Offline
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          I don't think so. Security at the border has been beefed up.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            You can also conduct raids and only grab those you identify as criminals. it should not be all that hard.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                @Axtremus said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

                This sounds reasonable to me.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  Or fine them and put them m step one of the standard immigration process. If they violate any steps, then deport them.

                  Don’t reward lawbreaking. You are just penalizing those that did it the right way.

                  The Brad

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                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      He TACOed on his TACO.

                      It’s Tacos all the way down.

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                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        TACO is the new flip-flop.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                          So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                          Ok.

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                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            I wonder if we’re going to see Lutnik/Bessent style ping pong with Miller and the Ag Secretary. Where policy swings back and forth twice a week based on who talked to him last.

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                              So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                              Ok.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                              Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                              So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                              So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                Like @Mik's other thread title, this is sad.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                  Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                  So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                  So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                  Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                  So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                  So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                                  Not at all. In general, you are going to see the more criminal element of the illegals living in urban centers. More people, easier to hide, and easier to score. MS13 13 and TdA aren’t generally living in a farming community of 5800 in Oklahoma, they’re living in the he DMV, a metro region with 6M people, and not much agri-business, but plenty of food packaging and processing business, where many shenanigans occur.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Stipulating all that, why would it not be the rational thing to do for an illegal in NYC to move to central PA? You can wash dishes anywhere.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      Some republican representatives think the deportations might be going to far, or at least targeting the wrong people.

                                      As Jesse Singal said, there’s a lot of support for closing the border and deporting criminals but most people have little stomach for seeing the abuelita down the street get dragged into a van.

                                      https://www.axios.com/2025/06/10/republicans-trump-deportations-ice-immigration

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                                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                        This is why you have raids, even if you are arresting Abuela. There are so many cockroaches crawling around in that underworld that you have to just spray it all. Sorry.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          This seems right to me.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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