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Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    While he campaigned on prioritizing serious criminals for deportation, the focus on absolute numbers has meant the real priority became grabbing whomever is easiest to grab.

    This seems like that could get reversed?

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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • MikM Offline
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      Adaptability is a good thing.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Some of course will say ‘who cares deport them all’ but our immigration courts only have so much capacity and they’re probably at most going to process 500-600k a year. So maybe he gets to deport 2 to 2.5MM in his term. Then it’s clear why prioritization matters and why they should target criminals and drug dealers rather than just raid every restaurant, farm, and car wash in America.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • MikM Offline
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          I have to agree with that.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              One problem is that the majority of the serious criminal catches have been in these widespread raids. Another issue is the sweeping enforcement has been one of the primary drivers of the reduced crossings. If you reduce these raids, do you ultimately encourage more crossings?

              The Brad

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                Good questions.

                By the way I think I’m making tacos tonight.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • MikM Offline
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                  I don't think so. Security at the border has been beefed up.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    You can also conduct raids and only grab those you identify as criminals. it should not be all that hard.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                        Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                        @Axtremus said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                        Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

                        This sounds reasonable to me.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          Or fine them and put them m step one of the standard immigration process. If they violate any steps, then deport them.

                          Don’t reward lawbreaking. You are just penalizing those that did it the right way.

                          The Brad

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