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Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front

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  • MikM Offline
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    I have to agree with that.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        One problem is that the majority of the serious criminal catches have been in these widespread raids. Another issue is the sweeping enforcement has been one of the primary drivers of the reduced crossings. If you reduce these raids, do you ultimately encourage more crossings?

        The Brad

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          Good questions.

          By the way I think I’m making tacos tonight.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • MikM Offline
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            I don't think so. Security at the border has been beefed up.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              You can also conduct raids and only grab those you identify as criminals. it should not be all that hard.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

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                  @Axtremus said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                  Or give the ones with no criminal records an easy path to citizenship. Fix our labor shortage issue, fix the low fertility rate issue, expand the tax base, fix the aging demographics issue, and solve the immigration issue all at once. If you like the America soon after Reagan’s amnesty, do it again. (Oh, do remind yourself that “amnesty” is a good, virtuous word.)

                  This sounds reasonable to me.

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                    Or fine them and put them m step one of the standard immigration process. If they violate any steps, then deport them.

                    Don’t reward lawbreaking. You are just penalizing those that did it the right way.

                    The Brad

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                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        He TACOed on his TACO.

                        It’s Tacos all the way down.

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                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          TACO is the new flip-flop.

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                            Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                            So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                            Ok.

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                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                              I wonder if we’re going to see Lutnik/Bessent style ping pong with Miller and the Ag Secretary. Where policy swings back and forth twice a week based on who talked to him last.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                Ok.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  Like @Mik's other thread title, this is sad.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                    Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                    So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                    So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Possible good news on the immigration enforcement front:

                                    Though here he’s saying the focus is on Democratic-run cities.

                                    So let’s get this straight - they’re going to focus on blue cities, where people are more chill about immigration, and do less in red states, where they are apoplectic about it.

                                    So I guess the rational thing for an illegal in NYC would be to move to central PA.

                                    Not at all. In general, you are going to see the more criminal element of the illegals living in urban centers. More people, easier to hide, and easier to score. MS13 13 and TdA aren’t generally living in a farming community of 5800 in Oklahoma, they’re living in the he DMV, a metro region with 6M people, and not much agri-business, but plenty of food packaging and processing business, where many shenanigans occur.

                                    The Brad

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                                      Stipulating all that, why would it not be the rational thing to do for an illegal in NYC to move to central PA? You can wash dishes anywhere.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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