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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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    Only non-witches get due process.

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      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

      This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.

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        It’s on!

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          What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Talking about bankruptcy around Trump is..........brave, lol.

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              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                Mine is Friday.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  Rand is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

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                    Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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                      I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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                        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                        Op-Ed by Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, an AI technology company:

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/05/opinion/anthropic-ceo-regulate-transparency.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk8.GCbk.gEk4FB4DnAhU

                        ... a 10-year moratorium is far too blunt an instrument. A.I. is advancing too head-spinningly fast. I believe that these systems could change the world, fundamentally, within two years; in 10 years, all bets are off. Without a clear plan for a federal response, a moratorium would give us the worst of both worlds — no ability for states to act, and no national policy as a backstop.

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                          Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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                          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                          Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                          Considering how poorly the CBO projected the 2017 TCJA, why should we trust their numbers this time?

                          The Brad

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                            I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                            @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                            I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow …

                            https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25#cmbjkbhvx00053b6s86gyygp9

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump said.

                              How so?

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