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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #58

    Funny.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #59

      All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #60

        @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

        All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

        Absolutely. I don’t disagree. Hell, it never should have gotten to the point of needing a court order to begin with. There was a stay, they accidentally deported him anyway. Fix the problem. Bring him back, get the stay lifted, and deport him.

        But let’s stop pretending this guy is a great father and a pillar of society.

        The guy needs to be removed from the country and the administration needs to follow the law in doing so. Both can be true.

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          #61

          I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

          Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

          The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            #62

            Rogan, getting it said.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • MikM Mik

              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

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              LuFins Dad
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              #63

              @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

              I’ll g

              @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

              I’ll go one further. I don’t even approve of sending foreign nationals to foreign prisons while they are still under our jurisdiction. They committed a crime? Lock them up, in the US. (Try them first, of course). Then deport or extradite if the other country has cause. The idea of using foreign prisons because they are more of a hellhole than we allow in the US is a complete hell fucking no in my mind, whether they are citizens or not. But if you deport him legally, I don’t really give a flying fig what the El Salvadoran government does with him after he is legally deported.

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 Online
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                You and Rogan and others are spitting some common sense and it's baffling we even need to have this commentary, honestly.

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                  #65

                  Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                  Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                  Video:
                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #66

                    A taste of what his advisors are up against.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                      Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                      Video:
                      https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                      image.png

                      taiwan_girlT Online
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                      @89th That actually was quite funny. LOL. You're right - interviewer is trying to move on and President Trump keeps getting out his shovel and digging in deeper. 555

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #68

                        I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                          Video:
                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                          image.png

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #69

                          @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                          Video:
                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                          image.png

                          What an asshole. Imagine trying to help that patronising prick and getting spoken to like that.

                          I was only joking

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                          • 89th8 Online
                            89th8 Online
                            89th
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                            #70

                            Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

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                              #71

                              Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.

                              I was only joking

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

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                                Horace
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                                @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                  What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                  That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

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                                  @Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                  @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                  What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                  That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

                                  If he speaks to journalists like that, one can only imagine the level of obsequiousness that is required from his minions.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.

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                                    @Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                    I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.

                                    Not at all sure about that. That would imply accountability. As we all know here, deflecting apologetics or trite snark is more the die-hard MAGA fall back in these instances.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.

                                      89th8 Online
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                                      89th
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                                      #75

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                      Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.

                                      And yet here I post on TNCR...

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