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El Salvador declines to return Garcia

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #50

    https://nypost.com/2025/04/17/us-news/alleged-ms-13-gang-member-kilmar-abrego-garcia-seen-sipping-margaritas-with-sen-van-hollen-amid-el-salvador-deportation-battle-new-photos-reveal/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      #51

      So I guess I was wrong when I said the Trump admin did not ask El Salvador to return Garcia. They claim to have asked, and they claim that they would provide a plane, in accordance with the court order. Then, we have the non-sequitur from the El Salvador president about how he would have to smuggle Garcia over the border. The operative decision continues to be the US administration's, but there is more verbal subterfuge and nonsense in the messaging from both countries than I realized.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #52

        Give the news cycle another week.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #53

          More about this wonderful “Maryland Father”

          https://dailycaller.com/2025/04/17/exclusive-department-of-homeland-security-confirms-abrego-garcia-stopped-suspected-human-trafficking/

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #54

            Don’t get me wrong, he absolutely needs to be brought back. But for our sake, not his.

            The Brad

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              #55

              That's weird he was just given a warning, too.

              So for actual evidence, his only crime so far is he was loitering while looking for work.

              But the more likely story is he's MS-13, an abusive husband at times, and likely a trafficker of illegals from Mexico to Maryland.

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #56

                True or not? I dont know.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  True or not? I dont know.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #57

                  @taiwan_girl said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                  True or not? I dont know.

                  This is the stupidest argument ever. The marijuana leaf = M. The smiley with xed eyes = S, the single cross = 1, the skull with the 3 squares is a regular dice model = 3

                  MS13… An agent typed in the letters on the picture relating what each symbol meant. It’s a frigging gang symbol glossary on the picture but people are saying the letters are fake. Yes, they are fucking fake. Barrio -18 doesn’t tattoo that name on their arm using Arial font… FFS

                  The Brad

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #58

                    Funny.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #59

                      All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #60

                        @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                        All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                        Absolutely. I don’t disagree. Hell, it never should have gotten to the point of needing a court order to begin with. There was a stay, they accidentally deported him anyway. Fix the problem. Bring him back, get the stay lifted, and deport him.

                        But let’s stop pretending this guy is a great father and a pillar of society.

                        The guy needs to be removed from the country and the administration needs to follow the law in doing so. Both can be true.

                        The Brad

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                          Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                          The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Rogan, getting it said.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
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                              @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                              I’ll g

                              @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                              I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                              Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                              The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                              I’ll go one further. I don’t even approve of sending foreign nationals to foreign prisons while they are still under our jurisdiction. They committed a crime? Lock them up, in the US. (Try them first, of course). Then deport or extradite if the other country has cause. The idea of using foreign prisons because they are more of a hellhole than we allow in the US is a complete hell fucking no in my mind, whether they are citizens or not. But if you deport him legally, I don’t really give a flying fig what the El Salvadoran government does with him after he is legally deported.

                              The Brad

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                              • 89th8 Offline
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                                89th
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                                #64

                                You and Rogan and others are spitting some common sense and it's baffling we even need to have this commentary, honestly.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
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                                  Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                  Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                  Video:
                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #66

                                    A taste of what his advisors are up against.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                      Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                      Video:
                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                                      image.png

                                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                      @89th That actually was quite funny. LOL. You're right - interviewer is trying to move on and President Trump keeps getting out his shovel and digging in deeper. 555

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
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                                        #68

                                        I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                          Video:
                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                                          image.png

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          #69

                                          @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                          Video:
                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

                                          image.png

                                          What an asshole. Imagine trying to help that patronising prick and getting spoken to like that.

                                          I was only joking

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