El Salvador declines to return Garcia
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@Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.
Absolutely. I don’t disagree. Hell, it never should have gotten to the point of needing a court order to begin with. There was a stay, they accidentally deported him anyway. Fix the problem. Bring him back, get the stay lifted, and deport him.
But let’s stop pretending this guy is a great father and a pillar of society.
The guy needs to be removed from the country and the administration needs to follow the law in doing so. Both can be true.
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I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.
Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.
The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.
Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.
The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.
@Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.
Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.
The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.
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@Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.
Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.
The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.
I’ll go one further. I don’t even approve of sending foreign nationals to foreign prisons while they are still under our jurisdiction. They committed a crime? Lock them up, in the US. (Try them first, of course). Then deport or extradite if the other country has cause. The idea of using foreign prisons because they are more of a hellhole than we allow in the US is a complete hell fucking no in my mind, whether they are citizens or not. But if you deport him legally, I don’t really give a flying fig what the El Salvadoran government does with him after he is legally deported.
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Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.
Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.
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Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.
Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.
@89th That actually was quite funny. LOL. You're right - interviewer is trying to move on and President Trump keeps getting out his shovel and digging in deeper. 555
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Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.
Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.
@89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.
Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.
What an asshole. Imagine trying to help that patronising prick and getting spoken to like that.
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Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."
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Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.
I was only joking
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Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."
@89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."
That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.
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@89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."
That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.
@Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
@89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."
That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.
If he speaks to journalists like that, one can only imagine the level of obsequiousness that is required from his minions.
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I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.
@Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.
Not at all sure about that. That would imply accountability. As we all know here, deflecting apologetics or trite snark is more the die-hard MAGA fall back in these instances.
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Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.
@Doctor-Phibes said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.
And yet here I post on TNCR...
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More TACO. After all of the “he’ll never be returned!” talk.
He has been returned.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kilmar-abrego-garcias-release-ordered-remain-detained-ice/
A Tennessee judge on Sunday ordered the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whose mistaken deportation has become a flashpoint in President Trump's immigration crackdown, while he awaits a federal trial on human smuggling charges. But he is not expected to be allowed to go free.
At his June 13 detention hearing, prosecutors said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement would take Abrego Garcia into custody if he were released on the criminal charges, and he could be deported before he has a chance to stand trial.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes has scheduled a hearing for Wednesday to discuss the conditions of Abrego Garcia's release. The U.S. government has already filed a motion to appeal the judge's release order.
Holmes acknowledged in her ruling Sunday that determining whether Abrego Garcia should be released is "little more than an academic exercise" because ICE will likely detain him. But the judge wrote that everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence and "a full and fair determination of whether he must remain in federal custody pending trial."
Holmes wrote that the government failed to prove that Abrego was a flight risk, that he posed a danger to the community or that he would interfere with proceedings if released.
