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El Salvador declines to return Garcia

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote 24 days ago last edited by
    #54

    Don’t get me wrong, he absolutely needs to be brought back. But for our sake, not his.

    The Brad

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      89th
      wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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      That's weird he was just given a warning, too.

      So for actual evidence, his only crime so far is he was loitering while looking for work.

      But the more likely story is he's MS-13, an abusive husband at times, and likely a trafficker of illegals from Mexico to Maryland.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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        True or not? I dont know.

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          23 days ago

          True or not? I dont know.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

          True or not? I dont know.

          This is the stupidest argument ever. The marijuana leaf = M. The smiley with xed eyes = S, the single cross = 1, the skull with the 3 squares is a regular dice model = 3

          MS13… An agent typed in the letters on the picture relating what each symbol meant. It’s a frigging gang symbol glossary on the picture but people are saying the letters are fake. Yes, they are fucking fake. Barrio -18 doesn’t tattoo that name on their arm using Arial font… FFS

          The Brad

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            Horace
            wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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            Funny.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Mik
              wrote 23 days ago last edited by
              #59

              All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                23 days ago

                All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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                @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                Absolutely. I don’t disagree. Hell, it never should have gotten to the point of needing a court order to begin with. There was a stay, they accidentally deported him anyway. Fix the problem. Bring him back, get the stay lifted, and deport him.

                But let’s stop pretending this guy is a great father and a pillar of society.

                The guy needs to be removed from the country and the administration needs to follow the law in doing so. Both can be true.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                  I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                  Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                  The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                    Rogan, getting it said.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • M Mik
                      22 days ago

                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                      @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

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                      @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                      I’ll go one further. I don’t even approve of sending foreign nationals to foreign prisons while they are still under our jurisdiction. They committed a crime? Lock them up, in the US. (Try them first, of course). Then deport or extradite if the other country has cause. The idea of using foreign prisons because they are more of a hellhole than we allow in the US is a complete hell fucking no in my mind, whether they are citizens or not. But if you deport him legally, I don’t really give a flying fig what the El Salvadoran government does with him after he is legally deported.

                      The Brad

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                        89th
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                        You and Rogan and others are spitting some common sense and it's baffling we even need to have this commentary, honestly.

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                          89th
                          wrote 13 days ago last edited by 89th
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                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                          Video:
                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                            Horace
                            wrote 13 days ago last edited by
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                            A taste of what his advisors are up against.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              13 days ago

                              Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                              Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                              Video:
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                              @89th That actually was quite funny. LOL. You're right - interviewer is trying to move on and President Trump keeps getting out his shovel and digging in deeper. 555

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                                Horace
                                wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                I have to believe even die hard Maga is not with him in this invented reality. Not mostly at least.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  13 days ago

                                  Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                  Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                  Video:
                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                  @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                  Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                  Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                  Video:
                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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                                  What an asshole. Imagine trying to help that patronising prick and getting spoken to like that.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    89th
                                    wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                    Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                      Trump's inability to even fake humility is pretty funny. He talks to people as though they're imbeciles and yet he's clearly wrong and uninformed about so many things.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        12 days ago

                                        Ha I caught that insult too. "I only accepted this interview because I've never heard of you", but the ending of Trump saying "why can't you just say yes and move on?" is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO indicative of the type of echo chamber he expects around him. What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                        @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                        What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                        That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          12 days ago

                                          @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                          What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                          That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote 12 days ago last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                          @89th said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                          What I would pay to watch the 10 minutes after the interview as a staffer (hopefully) goes up to Trump and says, "yeah... about that photo..."

                                          That is a surprisingly optimistic imagining of how he is talked to by his staffers.

                                          If he speaks to journalists like that, one can only imagine the level of obsequiousness that is required from his minions.

                                          I was only joking

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