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China cannot win the trade war with the US

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    Mik
    wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 18:27 last edited by
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    We’ve already seen that this week.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Horace
      wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 18:47 last edited by
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      Yep. China can win a war of pain tolerance.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 18:54 last edited by
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        It's an old saw that nobody wins a trade war.

        Obviously the increasingly stable genius believes otherwise. However, does anybody honestly believe that he's negotiating in good faith? The worst thing you can do in any negotiation is to lose people's trust - not the trust of your adversaries, but the trust of people who until very recently were allies.

        I was only joking

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 10:38 last edited by
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          https://nypost.com/2025/04/10/us-news/trump-tariffs-on-china-will-actually-be-145-for-some-imports-white-house-clarifies/?lctg=64c6a1ef98e05a7c3b004bca

          Tariffs on Chinese imports now at 145%.
          China's tariffs on U.S. imports to reach 125%.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 10:51 last edited by
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            The mar-al-lago virus is worse than the wuhan virus.

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            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              89th
              wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 11:56 last edited by
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              We need a better brand for this. TRUMPVID-25?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 13:54 last edited by
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                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  11 Apr 2025, 13:54

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 18:32 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                  Unfortunately, the wrong approach if the words above are correct.

                  Better would be "both US and China agreeto discuss path forward that is beneficial for both countries."

                  Telling China to be the one to request a call will backfire.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 18:53 last edited by
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                    It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      11 Apr 2025, 18:53

                      It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 18:55 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                      It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

                      Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • M Mik
                        11 Apr 2025, 18:55

                        @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                        It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

                        Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 20:49 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                        @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                        It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

                        Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

                        The problem is that there is no communication. It’s quite something other. It goes hand in hand with hubris.

                        Elbows up!

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                          AndyD
                          wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 04:19 last edited by
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                          The relationship between America and China has been damaged, as seen by China's polite oral response and not raising tariffs after the latest ridiculous US rise.

                          They're not like the Japanese (bow properly and be prepared to learn from anyone).

                          It all about humility and friendships and face. Once offended it's difficult to go back. Xi must have spent millions wiping his nicknames off the Internet. Now he's visiting Spain, Malaysia, Cambodia Vietnam. Pretty obvious why.

                          Trump(CF) needs a couple of people who really understand the Chinese to advise.
                          Don't ask me though, I've only been married to one for 33 years.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 13:25 last edited by
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                            One guy is in...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              AndyD
                              wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 16:19 last edited by
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                              🙄
                              Oh the humility and understanding.
                              He must think he is the most perfect person to deal with the Chinese, and like Trump(CF), the most humble & diplomatic deal maker in any room.

                              He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

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                                12 Apr 2025, 16:19

                                🙄
                                Oh the humility and understanding.
                                He must think he is the most perfect person to deal with the Chinese, and like Trump(CF), the most humble & diplomatic deal maker in any room.

                                He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 17:21 last edited by
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                                @AndyD said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                                He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

                                He is.

                                From my understanding, most US companies sell technology that is (at least) one generation behind, because it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                                But, that doesn't mean that telling them that they HAVE to call President Trump is a good way to go about resolving this issue.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 18:16 last edited by
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                                  Certainly not to a culture that values face.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    12 Apr 2025, 17:21

                                    @AndyD said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                                    He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

                                    He is.

                                    From my understanding, most US companies sell technology that is (at least) one generation behind, because it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                                    But, that doesn't mean that telling them that they HAVE to call President Trump is a good way to go about resolving this issue.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 18:43 last edited by Renauda 4 Dec 2025, 18:45
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                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    …. it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                                    Russians do the same and have since Soviet times and earlier. Sometimes successfully other times not so much.

                                    They regard it as a sovereign right. I suspect China does as well.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 12:07 last edited by
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                                      This one praises MAGA and its aspiration to bring back manufacturing jobs:

                                      Link to video

                                      Fake, of course. AI may be involved.

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