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China cannot win the trade war with the US

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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    @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

    Unfortunately, the wrong approach if the words above are correct.

    Better would be "both US and China agreeto discuss path forward that is beneficial for both countries."

    Telling China to be the one to request a call will backfire.

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      It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

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        @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

        It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

        Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

          It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

          Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

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          @Mik said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

          @jon-nyc said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

          It did. He got crickets and another 41% tariff in return.

          Indeed. Again, their lack of skill at implementing most everything and the communication thereof is just killing them.

          The problem is that there is no communication. It’s quite something other. It goes hand in hand with hubris.

          Elbows up!

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            The relationship between America and China has been damaged, as seen by China's polite oral response and not raising tariffs after the latest ridiculous US rise.

            They're not like the Japanese (bow properly and be prepared to learn from anyone).

            It all about humility and friendships and face. Once offended it's difficult to go back. Xi must have spent millions wiping his nicknames off the Internet. Now he's visiting Spain, Malaysia, Cambodia Vietnam. Pretty obvious why.

            Trump(CF) needs a couple of people who really understand the Chinese to advise.
            Don't ask me though, I've only been married to one for 33 years.

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              One guy is in...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                🙄
                Oh the humility and understanding.
                He must think he is the most perfect person to deal with the Chinese, and like Trump(CF), the most humble & diplomatic deal maker in any room.

                He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

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                  🙄
                  Oh the humility and understanding.
                  He must think he is the most perfect person to deal with the Chinese, and like Trump(CF), the most humble & diplomatic deal maker in any room.

                  He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

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                  @AndyD said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                  He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

                  He is.

                  From my understanding, most US companies sell technology that is (at least) one generation behind, because it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                  But, that doesn't mean that telling them that they HAVE to call President Trump is a good way to go about resolving this issue.

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                    Certainly not to a culture that values face.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @AndyD said in China cannot win the trade war with the US:

                      He may well be right about the Chinese government and its methods of course.

                      He is.

                      From my understanding, most US companies sell technology that is (at least) one generation behind, because it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                      But, that doesn't mean that telling them that they HAVE to call President Trump is a good way to go about resolving this issue.

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                      @taiwan_girl

                      …. it is known that they will "reverse engineer" it and then sell it via a Chinese company as being self developed.

                      Russians do the same and have since Soviet times and earlier. Sometimes successfully other times not so much.

                      They regard it as a sovereign right. I suspect China does as well.

                      Elbows up!

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                        This one praises MAGA and its aspiration to bring back manufacturing jobs:

                        Link to video

                        Fake, of course. AI may be involved.

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