Trump Talk
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
lots of lies
Trump said, “We inherited from the last administration an economic catastrophe.” This wasn’t true.
The possible contraction for the first quarter is not a result of everything since Jan 21st. You know that. And yes, there is an economic disaster. Interest rates are through the roof but inflation is too high. Private debt is at record levels and wage growth is stagnant. In the stock market front, the PE ratios are scarily out of whack and a correction is definitely coming. Real estate is also completely messed up, which is driving up rents. I’d say it’s looking pretty catastrophic, and the administration did inherit it from the prior administration, along with the last year of the administration before that…
Trump said, “We’re going to have growth in the auto industry like nobody’s ever seen. Plants are opening up all over the place.” That wasn’t true.
Honda just announced expansions in Indiana and there have been multiple parts fabricators that have started new shops.
Trump said, towns like Aurora, Colorado, and Springfield, Ohio, were “destroyed” by immigrants. That wasn’t true.
Ask the people Aurora, Springfield, and Charleroi their opinions…
Trump said, in reference to Europe and aid to Ukraine, “[W]e’ve spent perhaps $350 billion, and they’ve spent $100 billion.” That wasn’t true.
Yep, that was a lie.
Trump said, “For the first time in modern history, more Americans believe that our country is headed in the right direction than the wrong direction.” That wasn’t true.
That’s subjective, but the polls show a definite switch from the last administration.
Trump said, in reference to Biden-era inflation, rates were the worst “perhaps even in the history of our country, they’re not sure.” They are sure and that wasn’t true.
Yeah, that was a whopper.
Trump said the Biden administration imposed an “electric vehicle mandate.” That wasn’t true.
Yes, it was, in effect an EV mandate.
Trump said, “I’ve stopped all government censorship.” That wasn’t true.
Meet the new boss, same as the old? Though there are more people objecting from the right to Trump’s suppression than there was from the left over the past 16 years.
Trump said, “Believe it or not, government databases list 4.7 million Social Security members from people aged 100 to 109 years old. It lists 3.6 million people from ages 110 to 119.” Don’t believe it, because that wasn’t true.
It is true, but was a technical glitch.
Trump said the Biden administration “closed more than 100 power plants.” That wasn’t true.
I couldn’t say.
Trump said, “The presidential election of Nov. 5 was a mandate like has not been seen in many decades.” That wasn’t true.
Subjective.
Trump said that his first term economic agenda produced “the most successful economy in the history of our country.” That wasn’t true.
Subjective.
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
The possible contraction for the first quarter is not a result of everything since Jan 21st. You know that. And yes, there is an economic disaster. Interest rates are through the roof but inflation is too high. Private debt is at record levels and wage growth is stagnant. In the stock market front, the PE ratios are scarily out of whack and a correction is definitely coming. Real estate is also completely messed up, which is driving up rents.
I have long said that the president gets too much blame and too much credit for the economy. So, yes the things happening now cannot be 100% blamed on President Trump. As you mentioned, they could partially be due to policies during the first President Trump term.
But, the Republics ran (and won) on the economy, whether it actually was President Biden's fault or not. So, just trying to keep the same baseline.
You mentioned some interesting data (federal interest rate, private debt, wage growth, etc.). I will try to add them to the Trumpenomics spreadsheet.
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We funded the creation of the ‘PiZ transgenic mouse’ many years ago. It’s a mouse that expresses human AAT protein in the modified (read: fucked up) Z version which guys like me have. There’s another version that expresses human wild-type (read: normal) M version. Both required gene insertions because mice naturally make a different type of AAT.
This allows us to test potential treatments in mice. We have ferret models and so called ‘NHP’ models too (non-human primates).
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Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
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@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
The Brad
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@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
So what?
It's ok to just make up stuff about him. TDS will make it true.
And I think he enjoys owning so many people.
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@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.
Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.
Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.
Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!
You know, you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar and then you complain about the dog.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.
Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:
@89th said in Trump Talk:
@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:
Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?
Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.
"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."
No! It is NOT real.
From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.
Trump just makes shit up.
I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!
From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc
https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about
Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.
Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!
I started to, then realized it wasn’t worth the time.
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I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!
Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?
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I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!
Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?
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I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!
Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?
@89th said in Trump Talk:
I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!
Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?
It's getting to the point where people wish not to engage with you, because you want a SCOTUS brief on every ant hill.
Does Trump engage in hyperbole? Of course. Does he sometime make claims exceeding what is happening at the moment? Sure.
Does it bother me? Not usually. All pols BS, it's part of the game. I just try to ascertain what is actually going on and where we are headed.
Trump has a vision of where he wants to go and I agree with a lot of it. He wants jobs and economic prosperity, thinking that a rising tide will lift all boats. That vision drives his views on the Border, his views on trade and tariffs, his views on government efficiency, his views on energy and his views on personal freedom.
You may not agree with his policies. That's fine. But the constant Trump lied! is tedious.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Jolly wrote:
But the constant Trump lied! is tedious.
What if the lying keeps happening constantly?
Ever contemplate that, if the constant lying were to stop, then the constant calling out of the lies will also stop?
You still like the 9th commandment, right?
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@89th said in Trump Talk:
I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!
Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?
It's getting to the point where people wish not to engage with you, because you want a SCOTUS brief on every ant hill.
Does Trump engage in hyperbole? Of course. Does he sometime make claims exceeding what is happening at the moment? Sure.
Does it bother me? Not usually. All pols BS, it's part of the game. I just try to ascertain what is actually going on and where we are headed.
Trump has a vision of where he wants to go and I agree with a lot of it. He wants jobs and economic prosperity, thinking that a rising tide will lift all boats. That vision drives his views on the Border, his views on trade and tariffs, his views on government efficiency, his views on energy and his views on personal freedom.
You may not agree with his policies. That's fine. But the constant Trump lied! is tedious.
@Jolly said in Trump Talk:
It's getting to the point where people wish not to engage with you, because you want a SCOTUS brief on every ant hill.
I don't want that at all, I just want very basic numbers to be accurate again. I want to be able to trust what he says.
So if he says Biden closed over 100 power plants (actually 23), or we spent 350B on Ukraine (actually 112B), or that 36,000 Americans died building the canal (actually 300), or that Biden had the highest inflation in the history of the country (hello 1980s), or that we have the strongest growth ever (hello 12 years ago)... just the very basic expectation of accurate numbers.
And I actually like most of his policies!
