Trump Talk

[jon-nyc]

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

[Horace]

There's very little meat on the bones of all the rhetoric of DOGE's findings. Hopefully someday we'll get a full accounting of what they actually accomplish, and hopefully that will be significant.

[jon-nyc]

We funded the creation of the ‘PiZ transgenic mouse’ many years ago. It’s a mouse that expresses human AAT protein in the modified (read: fucked up) Z version which guys like me have. There’s another version that expresses human wild-type (read: normal) M version. Both required gene insertions because mice naturally make a different type of AAT.

This allows us to test potential treatments in mice. We have ferret models and so called ‘NHP’ models too (non-human primates).

[89th]

@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.

"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."

No! It is NOT real.

From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.

Trump just makes shit up.

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

[Renauda]

@89th

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

Three guesses and first two don’t count.

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.

"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."

No! It is NOT real.

From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.

Trump just makes shit up.

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc

https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about

[Copper]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about

So what?

It's ok to just make up stuff about him. TDS will make it true.

And I think he enjoys owning so many people.

[89th]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.

"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."

No! It is NOT real.

From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.

Trump just makes shit up.

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc

https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about

Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.

Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!

[Mik]

[Jolly]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.

"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."

No! It is NOT real.

From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.

Trump just makes shit up.

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc

https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about

Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.

Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!

You know, you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar and then you complain about the dog.

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

@89th said in Trump Talk:

@jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

Oh my - I’m seeing some noises that Trump/Musk flagged transgenic mouse research as ‘transgender’ mouse research? Did that really happen?

Yes during the speech Trump said he was ending things like making mice transgender.

"Just listen to some of the appalling waste we have already identified. $22 billion from HHS to provide free housing and cars for illegal aliens. $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. Nobody knows what that is. $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ in the African nation of Lesotho, which nobody has ever heard of. $60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in Central America — $60 million. $8 million for making mice transgender. This is real."

No! It is NOT real.

From what I'm aware of, a few years ago there was a study on monkeys (not mice) to see the impact on the immune system if feminized hormones are adjusted.

Trump just makes shit up.

I did LOL during the speech at his "Nobody has ever heard of the country of Lesotho before". What President says that?!?!

From what you are aware of is the operative phrase. There really did slend millions trying to trans mice, and not transgenic, @jon-nyc

https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-transgender-mice-experiments-trump-talked-about

Ah I stand corrected, thanks! Although I wouldn't say the money was used to "make mice transgender" but really to investigate the harms and risks OF transgender/hormone therapy, which you'd think would be in the Republican playbook anyway... but that's in the details, as is the fact that RFK Jr's aunt's name is on half the grants, lol.

Ok, please correct me on the other 11 lies I outlined above. kthxbai!!

I started to, then realized it wasn’t worth the time.

[89th]

I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!

Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?

Gasp! Are you suggesting that, just like there are alternative facts, we now have alternative legislations too?!

[Jolly]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

I wish you would. There seems to be a general "yup, trump lies LOL" mentality here and it was refreshing to see some actual facts behind a counter argument!

Take the "I cut 25,000 pages of regulations" claim, where he actually increased it by 1,000 pages. Maybe Trump was referring to another register of regulations?

It's getting to the point where people wish not to engage with you, because you want a SCOTUS brief on every ant hill.

Does Trump engage in hyperbole? Of course. Does he sometime make claims exceeding what is happening at the moment? Sure.

Does it bother me? Not usually. All pols BS, it's part of the game. I just try to ascertain what is actually going on and where we are headed.

Trump has a vision of where he wants to go and I agree with a lot of it. He wants jobs and economic prosperity, thinking that a rising tide will lift all boats. That vision drives his views on the Border, his views on trade and tariffs, his views on government efficiency, his views on energy and his views on personal freedom.

You may not agree with his policies. That's fine. But the constant Trump lied! is tedious.

[Axtremus]

Jolly wrote:

But the constant Trump lied! is tedious.

What if the lying keeps happening constantly?

Ever contemplate that, if the constant lying were to stop, then the constant calling out of the lies will also stop?

You still like the 9th commandment, right?

[jon-nyc]

We all agree his constant lying is rather tedious.

[jon-nyc]

What’s even more tedious is all the turd polishers sprinkling deodorizer on the lies as they’re birthed.

[Jolly]

Keep on and you can talk to yourself.

Maybe that's the only way you can have an intelligent conversation.

[89th]

@Jolly said in Trump Talk:

It's getting to the point where people wish not to engage with you, because you want a SCOTUS brief on every ant hill.

I don't want that at all, I just want very basic numbers to be accurate again. I want to be able to trust what he says.

So if he says Biden closed over 100 power plants (actually 23), or we spent 350B on Ukraine (actually 112B), or that 36,000 Americans died building the canal (actually 300), or that Biden had the highest inflation in the history of the country (hello 1980s), or that we have the strongest growth ever (hello 12 years ago)... just the very basic expectation of accurate numbers.

And I actually like most of his policies!

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

And I actually like most of his policies!

[Bill Maher]

New rule!

You cannot like his policies if you do not also accept his alternative facts.

[/Bill Maher]