The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread
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Trying to figure out how much hyperbole there is in his concern.
On the one hand, Saudi and even Qatar are not dominant players in gas. On the other hand (I just learned from an Odd Lots podcast on the subject) NG is far more expensive to transport and the logistics are very sticky due to pipelines and long term contracts. It’s not as much as a ‘one global market’ as oil is.
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President Trump yesterday:
They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,
Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.
He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."
#faceslap
He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
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President Trump yesterday:
They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,
Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.
He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."
#faceslap
He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.
Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.
What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.
Elbows up!
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Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.
Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.
What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.
Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.
I believe that either PM or Foreign Minister of Isreal at first said that Isreal definitely let the US know what they were doing.
Later, the stepped back on that statement. I wonder if there were some pressure from the US to change their statement.
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Ya think?
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Actually, as much as I dislike Netanyahu, he is the only coherent belligerent in this war. The logic he uses behind Isreal’s engagement and objectives are clearly articulated regardless of whether or not one agrees with him. The same cannot at all be said for his American ally no matter who is behind the mic, the X post or Truth Social tantrum.
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Now it's The Crusade!
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There's reasonable speculation that Israel knew of 9/11 prior to the event and kept silent as it would likely work out in Israel's favor.
Am sure there’s speculation about it and a lot of other known unknowns. Whether any can be classified as reasonable however remains an unknown unknown.
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