The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread
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I don’t think we will see Iranians take to the streets anytime soon. Between the bombs and the state organs of repression, they remain sufficiently cowed into passivity. That however could change very quickly and violently if it becomes difficult to find food.
Regardless, the longer the war goes on the more difficult it will be down the road for the West in general, the Israelis in particular and the US specifically, to win many Persian hearts and minds. Based on what I have been reading and hear, that between the US and Israelis, it is only the latter that fully grasps the importance of creating the necessary conditions as soon as possible to effect regime change from below. I don’t sense much savvy in that regard coming out of the WH.
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Trying to figure out how much hyperbole there is in his concern.
On the one hand, Saudi and even Qatar are not dominant players in gas. On the other hand (I just learned from an Odd Lots podcast on the subject) NG is far more expensive to transport and the logistics are very sticky due to pipelines and long term contracts. It’s not as much as a ‘one global market’ as oil is.
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President Trump yesterday:
They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,
Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.
He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."
#faceslap
He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
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President Trump yesterday:
They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,
Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.
He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."
#faceslap
He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:
Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.
Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.
What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.
Elbows up!
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