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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #732

    I imagine the candidate pool is shrinking.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • HoraceH Horace

      I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it. Neither side for or against ever frames it that way. The against people are happier to claim that America is under an Israeli spell, while the for people understandably couch it in nobility and self defense.

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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #733

      @Horace

      I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it.

      Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin would all agree with that statement. As would every Marxist who ever walked on the planet.

      Neither side for or against ever frames it that way.

      True. Probably because throughout the last century or longer, the US has spent tremendous effort and capital trying convince the world it is not an imperialist state. It has certainly worked on convincing US domestic audiences but not so much elsewhere.

      Elbows up!

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #734

        Thought this video, a year old, was informative. You hear about these types of Iranian missiles and the interceptors... I was looking for a better explanation, this one was helpful.

        Link to video

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          #735

          When Trump and Pentagon officials say we have plenty of weapons... that's when I'm concerned that we don't. The lady doth protest too much............

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-burns-through-precision-munitions-air-defense-interceptors-in-iran/ar-AA1Xvxc8

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #736

            Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

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            • 89th8 89th

              I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote last edited by
              #737

              @89th said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

              I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

              Nahhh, he’s probably Mossad.

              Still, one thing I have to respect, here… The Iranian government isn’t working from home..

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 89th

                Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

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                said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

                WTF the internet listens to me. This was the first thing on reddit when I opened it again just now. See caption below the pic.

                997e26ef-0314-4282-80d4-998494d54ceb-image.png

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                • W Offline
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                  Wim
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                  #739

                  Apparently Trump wants the Kurds to start an insurrection.
                  How many times haven't the USA stabbed them in the back for the last 20 years?

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    #740

                    Yeah, good luck with that

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      wrote last edited by 89th
                      #741

                      This is totally NOT a war.

                      But.......first time the USA has sunk an enemy ship by submarine torpedo since WWII:

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1rkmduf/iranian_frigate_iris_dena_sunk_by_us_submarine/

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #742

                        NOW they want to talk to us.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oil-prices-fall-after-report-of-possible-us-iran-talks-amid-disrupted-gulf-flows/ar-AA1XvLOv?cvpid=21e3a8b11ea44318f4e62f93a91a7b8e

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          Kewl military video.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            #744

                            Ouch.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              What's weird is if you look at the satellite map, and even street view near the main road, there are weirdly few security checkpoints until you get right outside the perimeter of the radar site, which is not very big. Like you drive awfully close to it as a Qatari taxi driver. Guess if the sight is radar, there isn't much value other than trying to blow it up.

                              Speaking of which, I'd imagine we'll have anti-drone technology deployed one day near our assets... embassies, radar sites, air fields, etc. Like a truck with a dozen lightweight SAMs that can lock onto incoming small aircraft and blow it out. Right now I think they have to use one of those C-RAM thousand-per-second guns (again, where do all of the bullets ultimately land...?)

                              https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qk1xLdTxugFmBnWA

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                                xenon
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                                #746

                                Superpower vs superpower, I’m curious if the aircraft carrier is completely obsolete.

                                What do you do if someone like China sends out a swarm of drones?

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                                  Funny, just had the thought this morning that I know drones exist, but these are the early days of drone-based warfighting still.

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                                  • X xenon

                                    Superpower vs superpower, I’m curious if the aircraft carrier is completely obsolete.

                                    What do you do if someone like China sends out a swarm of drones?

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                                    @xenon said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                                    Superpower vs superpower, I’m curious if the aircraft carrier is completely obsolete.

                                    What do you do if someone like China sends out a swarm of drones?

                                    EMP weapons?

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      Now they tell me. I just booked our flights for spring break.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #750

                                        Bagh it, Dhad.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #751

                                          Jon, where are you taking your kid for Spring Break? (And why are you on your kid's spring break?)

                                          Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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