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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #724

    I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it. Neither side for or against ever frames it that way. The against people are happier to claim that America is under an Israeli spell, while the for people understandably couch it in nobility and self defense.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

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      @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

      You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

      I haven't really tracked the conservative position on Iran for the past decades, but hypocrisy is rampant these days. Heck, the "I'll end wars, not start them" has bombed like 8 countries and the "founder of Board of Peace" is firing the first shot.

      On the plus side, Trump just said this morning we have "unlimited weapons" and "can fight forever" and he never exaggerates the truth, so I feel better now.

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        #726

        Link to video

        Education is extremely important.

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          bachophile
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          #727

          So, the group of wise elders (88 of them) met a short while ago in Qom, to pick a new supreme leader. Sort of like a conclave.

          ooops, they’ve been bombed.

          Waiting bomb damage assessment (BDA)

          or white smoke. Or black smoke.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              One gets the impression they are not very bright.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                #730

                I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

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                • A Offline
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                  Here's hoping this Israeli method of deselecting supreme leaders continues ad infinitum

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                  • MikM Away
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                    I imagine the candidate pool is shrinking.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it. Neither side for or against ever frames it that way. The against people are happier to claim that America is under an Israeli spell, while the for people understandably couch it in nobility and self defense.

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                      #733

                      @Horace

                      I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it.

                      Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin would all agree with that statement. As would every Marxist who ever walked on the planet.

                      Neither side for or against ever frames it that way.

                      True. Probably because the US has spent tremendous effort and capital trying convince the world it is not an imperialist state. It has certainly worked on domestic audiences, not so much elsewhere.

                      Elbows up!

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