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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

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    @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

    You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

    Pundit class Trump supporters who question this are nearly the norm rather than the exception. This is more of a time for you to reflect on how wrong you’ve always been to call it a cult. Less of a time for empty dunks. Your only real target are the politicians who would lose their careers if they didn’t toe the line. But in this case, they’re probably mostly war hawks at heart anyway and claiming to be against all foreign entanglements was where they were dishonest.

    I heard MTG on Megyn Kelly yesterday and man is MTG pissed. Almost as if she had legit principles all along.

    Education is extremely important.

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      I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it. Neither side for or against ever frames it that way. The against people are happier to claim that America is under an Israeli spell, while the for people understandably couch it in nobility and self defense.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

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        @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

        You don’t need to care what he thinks but to understand my post you need to know that he’s a big maga influencer, and he’s calling out other maga folk on their hypocrisy and sycophancy.

        I haven't really tracked the conservative position on Iran for the past decades, but hypocrisy is rampant these days. Heck, the "I'll end wars, not start them" has bombed like 8 countries and the "founder of Board of Peace" is firing the first shot.

        On the plus side, Trump just said this morning we have "unlimited weapons" and "can fight forever" and he never exaggerates the truth, so I feel better now.

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          Link to video

          Education is extremely important.

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            bachophile
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            #727

            So, the group of wise elders (88 of them) met a short while ago in Qom, to pick a new supreme leader. Sort of like a conclave.

            ooops, they’ve been bombed.

            Waiting bomb damage assessment (BDA)

            or white smoke. Or black smoke.

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                One gets the impression they are not very bright.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  89th
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                  #730

                  I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

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                    Here's hoping this Israeli method of deselecting supreme leaders continues ad infinitum

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      I imagine the candidate pool is shrinking.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it. Neither side for or against ever frames it that way. The against people are happier to claim that America is under an Israeli spell, while the for people understandably couch it in nobility and self defense.

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                        #733

                        @Horace

                        I never hear this framed as American imperialism in the Middle East, with Israel as the America proxy, but that’s how I see it.

                        Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin would all agree with that statement. As would every Marxist who ever walked on the planet.

                        Neither side for or against ever frames it that way.

                        True. Probably because throughout the last century or longer, the US has spent tremendous effort and capital trying convince the world it is not an imperialist state. It has certainly worked on convincing US domestic audiences but not so much elsewhere.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Thought this video, a year old, was informative. You hear about these types of Iranian missiles and the interceptors... I was looking for a better explanation, this one was helpful.

                          Link to video

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                            When Trump and Pentagon officials say we have plenty of weapons... that's when I'm concerned that we don't. The lady doth protest too much............

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-burns-through-precision-munitions-air-defense-interceptors-in-iran/ar-AA1Xvxc8

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                              Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

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                                @89th said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                                I bet the Iranian government IT dude who has been begging his boss to install Zoom cameras is really upset right now.

                                Nahhh, he’s probably Mossad.

                                Still, one thing I have to respect, here… The Iranian government isn’t working from home..

                                The Brad

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

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                                  said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                                  Side note I thought about this morning, when these things are blown out of the sky, is random metal and debris just raining down on random farmers and taxi drivers?

                                  WTF the internet listens to me. This was the first thing on reddit when I opened it again just now. See caption below the pic.

                                  997e26ef-0314-4282-80d4-998494d54ceb-image.png

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                                    Apparently Trump wants the Kurds to start an insurrection.
                                    How many times haven't the USA stabbed them in the back for the last 20 years?

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                                      Yeah, good luck with that

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        #741

                                        This is totally NOT a war.

                                        But.......first time the USA has sunk an enemy ship by submarine torpedo since WWII:

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1rkmduf/iranian_frigate_iris_dena_sunk_by_us_submarine/

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                                          NOW they want to talk to us.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oil-prices-fall-after-report-of-possible-us-iran-talks-amid-disrupted-gulf-flows/ar-AA1XvLOv?cvpid=21e3a8b11ea44318f4e62f93a91a7b8e

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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